* Fritz Hudnut <non.space.1@gmail.com> [03-10-23 10:45]:

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I hope this does not sound insulting but I think that you are out of scope for this mailing list. I believe that you would be better served posting to the openSUSE user forums - see https://forums.opensuse.org

Cheers,

--- Pablo Sanchez - Blueoak Database Engineering

@Pablo:

Thanks for the concern. I wasn't posting to this list looking for help. The forum guys are very good at what they do, but, they don't make the decisions about what packages are going into TW, the decisions that break stuff, the decisions that make weekly upgrades take 1.5 hours of machine time to run through, etc. Those decisions appear to be made here, hence my post(s).

I have been running TW for roughly 8 or 9 years. When I first started using it, it was a "rolling" distribution, a few packages were upgraded every week . . . nothing broke, the system took care of itself very well--and it wasn't important to have actual command line skills to run it.

guess I have been running it a little longer than you have.

Now, in the last 1.5 to 2 years TW has become "very high maintenance" and more like Debian Sid (I have a Sid install running to compare) . . rather than being a "rolling" show it is a "high maintenance unstable" show, with large weekly package upgrades . . . that then often break the system in some way.

and while utilizing many non-standard repos, I fail to see that. the only system difficulty I see is late provision of nvidia G04 drivers in which case I just delay utilizing the newer kernel.

That clearly was a "decision" that I am asking the "why" of; because it seems like SUSE has all kinds of other channels to run "unstable" packages through to use for "unstable" purposes. I recall from my Mint days that he offers a few packages, "stable" and "rolling" . . . why is that openSUSE now has "stable" and "Sid" as the only two choices for download?? TW is now like a "gamer" distro . . . who knows which package will break your system, take a chance homie, click "y" and see what happens kind of a distro.

you really must have an underpowered machine to need 1.5 hours of machine time to complete a dup. I cannot remember my >10 year old desktop taking 10 minutes. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

* Fritz Hudnut <non.space.1@gmail.com> [03-10-23 10:45]:

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I hope this does not sound insulting but I think that you are out of scope for this mailing list. I believe that you would be better served posting to the openSUSE user forums - see https://forums.opensuse.org

Cheers,

--- Pablo Sanchez - Blueoak Database Engineering

@Pablo:

Thanks for the concern. I wasn't posting to this list looking for help. The forum guys are very good at what they do, but, they don't make the decisions about what packages are going into TW, the decisions that break stuff, the decisions that make weekly upgrades take 1.5 hours of machine time to run through, etc. Those decisions appear to be made here, hence my post(s).

I have been running TW for roughly 8 or 9 years. When I first started using it, it was a "rolling" distribution, a few packages were upgraded every week . . . nothing broke, the system took care of itself very well--and it wasn't important to have actual command line skills to run it.

guess I have been running it a little longer than you have.

Now, in the last 1.5 to 2 years TW has become "very high maintenance" and more like Debian Sid (I have a Sid install running to compare) . . rather than being a "rolling" show it is a "high maintenance unstable" show, with large weekly package upgrades . . . that then often break the system in some way.

and while utilizing many non-standard repos, I fail to see that. the only system difficulty I see is late provision of nvidia G04 drivers in which case I just delay utilizing the newer kernel.

That clearly was a "decision" that I am asking the "why" of; because it seems like SUSE has all kinds of other channels to run "unstable" packages through to use for "unstable" purposes. I recall from my Mint days that he offers a few packages, "stable" and "rolling" . . . why is that openSUSE now has "stable" and "Sid" as the only two choices for download?? TW is now like a "gamer" distro . . . who knows which package will break your system, take a chance homie, click "y" and see what happens kind of a distro.

you really must have an underpowered machine to need 1.5 hours of machine time to complete a dup. I cannot remember my >10 year old desktop taking 10 minutes. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc