Dominique Leuenberger schreef:

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On 3/19/2008 at 17:10, Martin Schlander wrote:

I wonder if a VLC/ffmpeg version that passes Novell legal department would still be able to play the flvs.

There I wonder if anybody actually would like another crippled player on the system... it's better not to have it at all and knowing that you can install it easily (Community repos, VLC) or use 1-click-install on the VLC website... but please spare us another useless media player.

Dominique

Sorry, forgot about the issues are also for VLC... -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.25-rc5-git2-5-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha3 KDE: 4.00.66 (KDE 4.0.66 >= 20080313) "release 6.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 16:10 +0100, Martin Schlander wrote:

I wonder if a VLC/ffmpeg version that passes Novell legal department would still be able to play the flvs.

Swfdec also claim to be able to play youtube videos. I believe Fedora 9 will use it. It's in factory also.

Both *might* be stripped out of the necessary video codec by legal. Swfdec relies on Gstreamer for video decoding. Installing gstreamer from Packman might do the trick. Hub --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Marcus Meissner schreef:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:55:19AM -0400, Hubert Figuiere wrote:

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On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 16:10 +0100, Martin Schlander wrote:

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I wonder if a VLC/ffmpeg version that passes Novell legal department would still be able to play the flvs.

Swfdec also claim to be able to play youtube videos. I believe Fedora 9 will use it. It's in factory also.

Both *might* be stripped out of the necessary video codec by legal. Swfdec relies on Gstreamer for video decoding.

swfdec also uses ffmpeg, which we do not and are not allowed to build against ...

And I very much think, that Fedoras generic version cannot do this either.

So while we have swfdec, it cannot play Youtube videos.

ciao, Marcus

OK, but not ok. What about gnash? It does the flash adds ok. When is the gnash videoplayer ready for testing? -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.25-rc5-git2-5-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha3 KDE: 4.00.66 (KDE 4.0.66 >= 20080313) "release 6.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Hubert Figuiere schreef:

On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 18:46 +0100, Oddball wrote:

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What about gnash?

Same issues. Flash is a completely encumbered technology, for which any free software implementation is likely to be blocked by Legal.

Relying on Gstreamer is the best compromise.

Hub

Amarok Gstreamer plays all, mp3, ogg and flac, np ;) -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.25-rc5-git2-5-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha3 KDE: 4.00.66 (KDE 4.0.66 >= 20080313) "release 6.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org