[opensuse-factory] Very laggy experience openSUSE 13.2 RC1
Hi, I am trying openSUSE 13.2 RC1, there are lots of problems with the performance, I think this is because the live USB is being mounted r/w for persistence, but it gives a horrible first time experience, please make the default read-only (like a DVD) and you can add an option to boot with persistence. Performance Problems: 1) Boot time is very very long, more than 5 minutes, I was booting to install to a friend, and before the desktop he wanted to try another distro because this is very slow, I told him this is only the live DVD, but he still this is terrible (me too). (I got a message "Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information" for more than two minutes). Subsequent boots from the usb drive are very slow too, not only the first time. 2) After the boot, everything is very slow and laggy, especially things related to disks, like opening dolphin!! sometimes everything freezes for seconds then back to (laggy) normal. I suggest making an option to boot without persistence, this is very important, even if we need to postpone the release until its ready. I also suggest making (read-only) the default, and putting the word (slow) with the persistence option so the user knows that this is not the usual speed. Regards Mustafa Muhammad -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Mustafa Muhammad <mustafaa.alhamdaani@gmail.com> Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:27:25 +0300:
Hi, I am trying openSUSE 13.2 RC1, there are lots of problems with the performance, I think this is because the live USB is being mounted r/w for persistence, but it gives a horrible first time experience, please make the default read-only (like a DVD) and you can add an option to boot with persistence. Performance Problems: 1) Boot time is very very long, more than 5 minutes, I was booting to install to a friend, and before the desktop he wanted to try another distro because this is very slow, I told him this is only the live DVD, but he still this is terrible (me too). (I got a message "Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information" for more than two minutes). Subsequent boots from the usb drive are very slow too, not only the first time.
2) After the boot, everything is very slow and laggy, especially things related to disks, like opening dolphin!! sometimes everything freezes for seconds then back to (laggy) normal.
I suggest making an option to boot without persistence, this is very important, even if we need to postpone the release until its ready. I also suggest making (read-only) the default, and putting the word (slow) with the persistence option so the user knows that this is not the usual speed.
Regards Mustafa Muhammad
Same story. It would better to use read-only flash and tmpfs to save changes. I have 7 GB of physical memory, I use USB (not CD) but live works very slowly. -- Best regards, Dmitriy DA(P).DarkneSS Perlow @ Linux x64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/26/2014 03:27 PM, Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
Hi, I am trying openSUSE 13.2 RC1, there are lots of problems with the performance, I think this is because the live USB is being mounted r/w for persistence, but it gives a horrible first time experience, please make the default read-only (like a DVD) and you can add an option to boot with persistence. Performance Problems: 1) Boot time is very very long, more than 5 minutes, I was booting to install to a friend, and before the desktop he wanted to try another distro because this is very slow, I told him this is only the live DVD, but he still this is terrible (me too). (I got a message "Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information" for more than two minutes). Subsequent boots from the usb drive are very slow too, not only the first time.
2) After the boot, everything is very slow and laggy, especially things related to disks, like opening dolphin!! sometimes everything freezes for seconds then back to (laggy) normal.
I suggest making an option to boot without persistence, this is very important, even if we need to postpone the release until its ready. I also suggest making (read-only) the default, and putting the word (slow) with the persistence option so the user knows that this is not the usual speed.
Regards Mustafa Muhammad
Agreed, I have experienced this issue as well - -- Regards, Uzair Shamim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUTU/kAAoJEM66EOTZRH6+oGMP/iaKES32rq9I1QKu8zYy5tNv Cbg5gOsnW5tQgt9wKNbp0be2Il8ahHOZKZspXAfZu3oU/17aU8ACJKtCl66CTA+C kQqTJbmYRhDwjvVjFJP1D6CSZkeOS07vgPY+yAmTdjgETWx3oFn4GMWrLx3JuZE1 3xIBQx6ZwooKh9AijArHivsyE3y6XSrFfeF41wEYfNm9JmpOgcA+pI7wJbvUHs1a nEMHG2xxUVdRSy/ZHw7QEARVR4jfomP/KPpKVlxoZE/5EDpOXJiIn1bHf/g0cgxD 8yp1teirdeLJ6eROU0Wdr1VJFvvt84tZFxyPMdgp4Jtj04c36dR2N3flr6h5JWzD WPvSs0U63N3EoUSX/diA82ANx7MfXaAKp5gF86HvcH/xg1NMNOPx1m0XTYhk95G0 UywY7CbDPej3/VQ0TEn8XQSNQufzLV2ZTKl5LvSJe80cfSLiibh7RA7pMy9E1IPS gX1a9+4PBLZ1GwQku1BtCf+VtbdQyAvQSgH9EhMRgf8nw7Y3N0f9eNhUN1PCbEsW OiChO8YHDpOmjgtoNJocKk/czbeScsEJCdyuGNbnmHtqHKgeD0k6kadviZrYwTRC xALjsfwT1e7lqbp6xvvua6YQSsgQVMlzrYlm9+qoTGNKmAxpCFBr1kGOxTA+0zEd diWcIsa1mCfYTDoc+0Tu =aR1O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, I am trying openSUSE 13.2 RC1, there are lots of problems with the performance, I think this is because the live USB is being mounted r/w for persistence, but it gives a horrible first time experience, please make the default read-only (like a DVD) and you can add an option to boot with persistence. Performance Problems: 1) Boot time is very very long, more than 5 minutes, I was booting to install to a friend, and before the desktop he wanted to try another distro because this is very slow, I told him this is only the live DVD, but he still this is terrible (me too). (I got a message "Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information" for more than two minutes). Subsequent boots from the usb drive are very slow too, not only the first time.
2) After the boot, everything is very slow and laggy, especially things related to disks, like opening dolphin!! sometimes everything freezes for seconds then back to (laggy) normal.
I suggest making an option to boot without persistence, this is very important, even if we need to postpone the release until its ready. I also suggest making (read-only) the default, and putting the word (slow) with the persistence option so the user knows that this is not the usual speed.
Regards Mustafa Muhammad I think our Live images shouldn't be persistent at all. I've run into
On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 22:27 +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote: the stranger problem of them only being bootable once and never again. I say, if somebody wants a persistent USB stick they can build one in SUSE Studio. -- Roger Luedecke <roger.luedecke@gmail.com> openSUSE Project -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 2014-10-27 05:55, Roger Luedecke wrote:
I think our Live images shouldn't be persistent at all. I've run into the stranger problem of them only being bootable once and never again. I say, if somebody wants a persistent USB stick they can build one in SUSE Studio.
…or just making it selectable via a bootmenu option. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On October 27, 2014 12:55:09 AM EDT, Roger Luedecke <roger.luedecke@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I am trying openSUSE 13.2 RC1, there are lots of problems with the performance, I think this is because the live USB is being mounted r/w for persistence, but it gives a horrible first time experience,
make the default read-only (like a DVD) and you can add an option to boot with persistence. Performance Problems: 1) Boot time is very very long, more than 5 minutes, I was booting to install to a friend, and before the desktop he wanted to try another distro because this is very slow, I told him this is only the live DVD, but he still this is terrible (me too). (I got a message "Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information" for more than two minutes). Subsequent boots from the usb drive are very slow too, not only the first time.
2) After the boot, everything is very slow and laggy, especially things related to disks, like opening dolphin!! sometimes everything freezes for seconds then back to (laggy) normal.
I suggest making an option to boot without persistence, this is very important, even if we need to postpone the release until its ready. I also suggest making (read-only) the default, and putting the word (slow) with the persistence option so the user knows that this is not the usual speed.
Regards Mustafa Muhammad I think our Live images shouldn't be persistent at all. I've run into
On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 22:27 +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote: please the stranger problem of them only being bootable once and never again. I say, if somebody wants a persistent USB stick they can build one in SUSE Studio.
I agree with Roger. Persistence is a specialty need that should not exist on the live images. Greg -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 22:27 +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
Hi, I am trying openSUSE 13.2 RC1, there are lots of problems with the performance, I think this is because the live USB is being mounted r/w for persistence, but it gives a horrible first time experience, please make the default read-only (like a DVD) and you can add an option to boot with persistence. Performance Problems: 1) Boot time is very very long, more than 5 minutes, I was booting to install to a friend, and before the desktop he wanted to try another distro because this is very slow, I told him this is only the live DVD, but he still this is terrible (me too). (I got a message "Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information" for more than two minutes).
This is a reported bug http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=897698 -- Atri Bhattacharya Mon Oct 27 04:14:47 MST 2014 Sent from openSUSE 13.2 on my laptop. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@aim.com> wrote:
On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 22:27 +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
Hi, I am trying openSUSE 13.2 RC1, there are lots of problems with the performance, I think this is because the live USB is being mounted r/w for persistence, but it gives a horrible first time experience, please make the default read-only (like a DVD) and you can add an option to boot with persistence. Performance Problems: 1) Boot time is very very long, more than 5 minutes, I was booting to install to a friend, and before the desktop he wanted to try another distro because this is very slow, I told him this is only the live DVD, but he still this is terrible (me too). (I got a message "Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information" for more than two minutes).
This is a reported bug http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=897698
Thanks, it is not just this bug, this takes 2-3 minutes, this is about the whole laggy r/w system that is not needed in a live environment, we need to boot into a read-only environment, where are you devs?
-- Atri Bhattacharya Mon Oct 27 04:14:47 MST 2014
Sent from openSUSE 13.2 on my laptop.
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On Mon, 2014-10-27 at 18:34 +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@aim.com> wrote:
On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 22:27 +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
Hi, I am trying openSUSE 13.2 RC1, there are lots of problems with the performance, I think this is because the live USB is being mounted r/w for persistence, but it gives a horrible first time experience, please make the default read-only (like a DVD) and you can add an option to boot with persistence. Performance Problems: 1) Boot time is very very long, more than 5 minutes, I was booting to install to a friend, and before the desktop he wanted to try another distro because this is very slow, I told him this is only the live DVD, but he still this is terrible (me too). (I got a message "Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information" for more than two minutes).
This is a reported bug http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=897698
Thanks, it is not just this bug, this takes 2-3 minutes, this is about the whole laggy r/w system that is not needed in a live environment, we need to boot into a read-only environment, where are you devs?
-- Atri Bhattacharya Mon Oct 27 04:14:47 MST 2014
Sent from openSUSE 13.2 on my laptop.
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Well, I reckon if we make a new thread with that request it'll get some attention. -- Roger Luedecke <roger.luedecke@gmail.com> openSUSE Project
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