[opensuse-factory] A note for the developers
Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar. The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast). I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone. OK, Sydney is a city in the state of New South Wales but it is NOT the Capital of Australia. Thank you for listening. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.1 & kernel 3.16.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op dinsdag 23 september 2014 17:34:56 schreef Basil Chupin:
Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.
The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).
I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone.
OK, Sydney is a city in the state of New South Wales but it is NOT the Capital of Australia.
Thank you for listening.
BC
This issue has been raised several times on the timezone mailing list, tz@iana.org. The timezone people use an algorithm to choose the largest city in a timezone in a country. Apparently Canberra is not the largest city in the timezone it lies in. -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 23/09/14 18:20, Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Op dinsdag 23 september 2014 17:34:56 schreef Basil Chupin:
Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.
The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).
I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone.
OK, Sydney is a city in the state of New South Wales but it is NOT the Capital of Australia.
Thank you for listening.
BC This issue has been raised several times on the timezone mailing list, tz@iana.org. The timezone people use an algorithm to choose the largest city in a timezone in a country. Apparently Canberra is not the largest city in the timezone it lies in.
But as we all know, size does NOT matter - it's what it does that matters. And here in Australia this 'size' runs the country :-) . BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.1 & kernel 3.16.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin wrote:
Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.
The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).
I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone.
OK, Sydney is a city in the state of New South Wales but it is NOT the Capital of Australia.
Hi Basil The city listed in a time zone is not necessarily the capital, e.g. Europe/Zurich. Switzerland per definition does not have a capital, although the de facto capital is Bern (seat of the federal government). /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.1°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 2014-09-23 14:35, Per Jessen wrote:
Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.
The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).
The city listed in a time zone is not necessarily the capital, e.g. Europe/Zurich. Switzerland per definition does not have a capital, although the de facto capital is Bern (seat of the federal government).
Note: Both Sydney and Zurich are the cities with the busiest airports in their respective country. :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 23/09/14 22:35, Per Jessen wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.
The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).
I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone.
OK, Sydney is a city in the state of New South Wales but it is NOT the Capital of Australia. Hi Basil
The city listed in a time zone is not necessarily the capital, e.g. Europe/Zurich. Switzerland per definition does not have a capital, although the de facto capital is Bern (seat of the federal government).
That's good enough for me: Bern is the capital of Switzerland and which is "......the seat of the federal authorities..". BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.1 & kernel 3.16.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
El 23/09/14 a las #4, Basil Chupin escribió:
Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.
The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).
I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone.
You will have to troll the IETF instead :-D we have nothing to do with or have a say about how this is all organized. -- Cristian "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/23/2014 10:49 AM, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 23/09/14 a las #4, Basil Chupin escribió:
Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.
The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).
I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone.
You will have to troll the IETF instead :-D we have nothing to do with or have a say about how this is all organized.
FWIW, there is no conspiracy against Australia. The capital of the United States, Washington DC, is not listed either. In that time zone, you need to select New York. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/23/2014 07:06 PM, Larry Finger wrote:
FWIW, there is no conspiracy against Australia. The capital of the United States, Washington DC, is not listed either. In that time zone, you need to select New York.
Same here in Bavaria: instead of Munich, I have to select Berlin or Paris. SCNR ;-)) Have a nice day, Berny -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
"Bernhard" == Bernhard Voelker <mail@bernhard-voelker.de> writes:
Bernhard> On 09/23/2014 07:06 PM, Larry Finger wrote: >> FWIW, there is no conspiracy against Australia. The capital of the >> United States, Washington DC, is not listed either. In that time zone, >> you need to select New York. Bernhard> Same here in Bavaria: instead of Munich, I have to select Berlin Bernhard> or Paris. SCNR ;-)) BRD = Bavaria und Rest Deutschland ;) -- Life is endless possibilities -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag 23 September 2014, 19:17:13 schrieb Bernhard Voelker:
On 09/23/2014 07:06 PM, Larry Finger wrote:
FWIW, there is no conspiracy against Australia. The capital of the
United States, Washington DC, is not listed either. In that time zone, you need to select New York.
Same here in Bavaria: instead of Munich, I have to select Berlin or Paris. SCNR ;-))
Have a nice day, Berny
"Time zone names are based on the public 'tz' (or 'zoneinfo') time zone database maintained by IANA. Time zones are named based on continent or ocean, then typically but not always the largest city within the time zone." SCNR. Cheers, MH -- gpg key fingerprint: 5F64 4C92 9B77 DE37 D184 C5F9 B013 44E7 27BD 763C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/09/14 06:18, Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Dienstag 23 September 2014, 19:17:13 schrieb Bernhard Voelker:
On 09/23/2014 07:06 PM, Larry Finger wrote:
FWIW, there is no conspiracy against Australia. The capital of the
United States, Washington DC, is not listed either. In that time zone, you need to select New York.
Same here in Bavaria: instead of Munich, I have to select Berlin or Paris. SCNR ;-))
Have a nice day, Berny "Time zone names are based on the public 'tz' (or 'zoneinfo') time zone database maintained by IANA.
The IANA?! The Islamic Association of North America?! Now I've heard everything.
Time zones are named based on continent or ocean, then typically but not always the largest city within the time zone."
SCNR.
Cheers, MH Just put *Canberra* in the damn list as the selection for the Time Zone for the east coast of Australia and that'll be the end of it!
BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.1 & kernel 3.16.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag 02 Oktober 2014, 17:52:09 schrieb Basil Chupin:
"Time zone names are based on the public 'tz' (or 'zoneinfo') time zone database maintained by IANA.
The IANA?! The Islamic Association of North America?!
FCS, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Assigned_Numbers_Authority -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op donderdag 2 oktober 2014 17:52:09 schreef Basil Chupin:
Just put *Canberra* in the damn list as the selection for the Time Zone for the east coast of Australia and that'll be the end of it!
BC
You are barking at the wrong tree. The people of IANA that maintain the time zone list are the one to address. See http://www.iana.org/time-zones -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/10/14 17:52, Basil Chupin wrote: [pruned]
Just put *Canberra* in the damn list as the selection for the Time Zone for the east coast of Australia and that'll be the end of it!
Canberra the best place to live, in the world's best country: OECD The report is a serious attempt by economists to provide a clearer picture of how life is lived at a regional and local level around the world, rather than just a national level. It comes with a big online well-being matching machine that allows you to compare living standards between 362 regions across 34 countries. Try it now if you have the time. Cycling around Lake Burley Griffin, in Australia's capital. Cycling around Lake Burley Griffin, in Australia's capital. The report has the Australian Capital Territory topping the global regional ranking on measures of well-being. Those nine measures are income, jobs, health, access to services, environment, education, safety, civic engagement and housing. An earlier version of the report was released in June but it has been updated to include another access to affordable and quality housing as a measure of well-being. Canberra is the best place in the world to live. And Australia is the best country, despite its problems. That's the result of an Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development report, which has ranked 34 countries on nine measures of well-being. ................. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/canberra-the-best-plac... Thank you. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.1 & kernel 3.16.4-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/09/14 03:17, Bernhard Voelker wrote:
On 09/23/2014 07:06 PM, Larry Finger wrote:
FWIW, there is no conspiracy against Australia. The capital of the United States, Washington DC, is not listed either. In that time zone, you need to select New York.
Same here in Bavaria: instead of Munich, I have to select Berlin or Paris. SCNR ;-))
Have a nice day, Berny
Then you should be protesting most vehemently! Munich is the capital of Bavaria and you MUST be able to select Munich and not some provincial towns like Berlin or Paris to set your Time Zone! BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.1 & kernel 3.16.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Ah, come on Basil, you have too much time on your hands... If I was a developer getting such protests - I would better drop all city names completely and leave only names of TZs themselves, because everyone and their mother will find 100 of reasons why their city should be listed in time zones list. On Thursday 02 October 2014 17:45:17 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 24/09/14 03:17, Bernhard Voelker wrote:
On 09/23/2014 07:06 PM, Larry Finger wrote:
FWIW, there is no conspiracy against Australia. The capital of the
United States, Washington DC, is not listed either. In that time zone, you need to select New York.
Same here in Bavaria: instead of Munich, I have to select Berlin or Paris. SCNR ;-))
Have a nice day, Berny
Then you should be protesting most vehemently!
Munich is the capital of Bavaria and you MUST be able to select Munich and not some provincial towns like Berlin or Paris to set your Time Zone!
BC
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On 24/09/14 03:06, Larry Finger wrote:
On 09/23/2014 10:49 AM, Cristian Rodr�guez wrote:
El 23/09/14 a las #4, Basil Chupin escribi�:
Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.
The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).
I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone.
You will have to troll the IETF instead :-D we have nothing to do with or have a say about how this is all organized.
FWIW, there is no conspiracy against Australia. The capital of the United States, Washington DC, is not listed either. In that time zone, you need to select New York.
Aww, come on there, Larry, "The capital of the United States, Washington DC.......". Everybody knows that the US of A is run from New York by the banks and Wall Street, with Washington being the place where decisions and legislation written by the banks and Wall Street are rubber stamped. But on a matter of principle, I would argue that Washington *should* be shown as the entry for the Time Zone for east coast of America. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.1 & kernel 3.16.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [10-02-14 03:41]: [...]
Aww, come on there, Larry, "The capital of the United States, Washington DC.......". Everybody knows that the US of A is run from New York by the banks and Wall Street, with Washington being the place where decisions and legislation written by the banks and Wall Street are rubber stamped.
But on a matter of principle, I would argue that Washington *should* be shown as the entry for the Time Zone for east coast of America.
Basil, your statements are not contributory in light of the problem you pose and are putting you into troll territory. Noise for the sake of noise. You have been told that a nation's capitol or location representing that status is not selected as representative of a time zone rather that location which relates best to the most people. If you cannot accept that, rather than debate (used very loosely) it here, why not go to the source of your perceived problem and provide information that will sway those individuals to your thoughts. You will only accomplish inane traffic here, which you already know :^( -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/10/14 21:46, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Aww, come on there, Larry, "The capital of the United States, Washington DC.......". Everybody knows that the US of A is run from New York by the banks and Wall Street, with Washington being the place where decisions and legislation written by the banks and Wall Street are rubber stamped.
But on a matter of principle, I would argue that Washington *should* be shown as the entry for the Time Zone for east coast of America. Basil, your statements are not contributory in light of the problem you
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [10-02-14 03:41]: [...] pose and are putting you into troll territory. Noise for the sake of noise.
You have been told that a nation's capitol or location representing that status is not selected as representative of a time zone rather that location which relates best to the most people.
If you cannot accept that, rather than debate (used very loosely) it here, why not go to the source of your perceived problem and provide information that will sway those individuals to your thoughts.
You will only accomplish inane traffic here, which you already know :^( Ah, Patrick The Wise comes up, as always, with the appropriate comment.
BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.1 & kernel 3.16.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 05 October 2014 17:02:38 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 02/10/14 21:46, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [10-02-14 03:41]: [...]
Aww, come on there, Larry, "The capital of the United States, Washington DC.......". Everybody knows that the US of A is run from New York by the banks and Wall Street, with Washington being the place where decisions and legislation written by the banks and Wall Street are rubber stamped.
But on a matter of principle, I would argue that Washington *should* be shown as the entry for the Time Zone for east coast of America.
Basil, your statements are not contributory in light of the problem you pose and are putting you into troll territory. Noise for the sake of noise.
You have been told that a nation's capitol or location representing that status is not selected as representative of a time zone rather that location which relates best to the most people.
If you cannot accept that, rather than debate (used very loosely) it here, why not go to the source of your perceived problem and provide information that will sway those individuals to your thoughts.
You will only accomplish inane traffic here, which you already know :^(
Ah, Patrick The Wise comes up, as always, with the appropriate comment.
No, he is right, you're wasting everybody's time. If you care about openSUSE development, then let its developers DEVELOP instead of deal with silly discussions on this list.
BC
On 24/09/14 01:49, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 23/09/14 a las #4, Basil Chupin escribi�:
Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.
The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).
I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone.
You will have to troll the IETF instead :-D we have nothing to do with or have a say about how this is all organized.
Cannot see anywhere where they are involved in prescribing Sydney or Brisbane or Melbourne to used to determine the Time Zone for the East Coast of Australia. As the IETF appears to be a loose cluster of individuals with no real standing apart from being assumed to be some sort of a de-facto authority for setting "standards" then they can be told that Canberra is the capital of Australia and should be treated as the sole reference point for setting the Time Zone for the East Coast of Australia. Period. And as I live in Canberra then this only makes my case even stronger. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.1 & kernel 3.16.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2014-10-02 at 17:31 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
As the IETF appears to be a loose cluster of individuals with no real standing apart from being assumed to be some sort of a de-facto authority for setting "standards" then they can be told that Canberra is the capital of Australia and should be treated as the sole reference point for setting the Time Zone for the East Coast of Australia. Period.
As you state, it is the capital of Australia, not of a time zone. Using such a concept would introduce a need to have two rules for naming time zones, as a capital can be only in one time zone. There is no need to let time zones names follow political definitions.
From a purely utilitarian standpoint taking the largest city allows more people to know what time zone is referred to without looking it up. Canberra is a nice city, but many people would have to look up which time zone it is in.
Regards Oliver -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/02/2014 05:01 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 24/09/14 01:49, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 23/09/14 a las #4, Basil Chupin escribi�:
Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.
The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).
I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone.
You will have to troll the IETF instead :-D we have nothing to do with or have a say about how this is all organized.
Cannot see anywhere where they are involved in prescribing Sydney or Brisbane or Melbourne to used to determine the Time Zone for the East Coast of Australia.
Well for almost half the year Brisbane has a different time to Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra because Brisbane doesn't follow daylight savings. And some years Melbourne and Sydney don't swap to daylight savings at the same time, As for Canberra i think they just follow whatever NSW decides. As for me i live near enough to Adelaide which gets its own mention as it has its own timezone, maybe you should convince the Canberra government to do the same :-P
As the IETF appears to be a loose cluster of individuals with no real standing apart from being assumed to be some sort of a de-facto authority for setting "standards" then they can be told that Canberra is the capital of Australia and should be treated as the sole reference point for setting the Time Zone for the East Coast of Australia. Period.
And as I live in Canberra then this only makes my case even stronger.
BC
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participants (14)
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Basil Chupin -
Bernhard Voelker -
Cristian Rodríguez -
Freek de Kruijf -
Jan Engelhardt -
Jos Poortvliet -
Larry Finger -
Mathias Homann -
Oliver Neukum -
Patrick Shanahan -
Per Jessen -
Simon -
Stanislav Baiduzhyi -
Togan Muftuoglu