[opensuse-factory] getting copies of bounce-errors?
Got two notes (at end) indicating 3 messages that bounced.
What I'd like to know is "why" they bounced and/or where
the bounce occurred.
Is it possible to get a copy of the "bounce" message
and/or any mail errors that were listed that indicate a
bounce?
I'm trying to find out how or why occasional messages
bounce -- one irate list owner claimed I was rejecting
all their email as spam (which I don't, but if it was rejected
before it ever got to me... I wouldn't know). However when
I asked for a copy, they claimed I was being "aggressive" and
refused to send me a copy. (?!?) Anyway, I tried sending
email to the list-admin address a few days ago,
but got no response, and wondered if anyone here might
know how to get copies of the _bounce messages_ (not
so much needing the original messages, as they won't tell
me where in my email-chain the bounce occurred).
Thanks much!
-linda
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Bouncing messages from opensuse-factory@opensuse.org
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 00:00:02 +0000
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L. A. Walsh wrote:
Got two notes (at end) indicating 3 messages that bounced. What I'd like to know is "why" they bounced and/or where the bounce occurred.
Is it possible to get a copy of the "bounce" message and/or any mail errors that were listed that indicate a bounce?
Hi Linda looking at the mailing list server logs, in November only three messages to you bounced: 2016-11-01T17:40:25 2016-11-09T19:01:26 2016-11-09T20:33:22 The MX for tlinx.org rejected those with : 550 5.7.1 uA1HeIAM026935 This message has been blocked for containing SPAM-like characteristics. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.3°C) openSUSE mailing list admin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
The MX for tlinx.org rejected those with :
550 5.7.1 uA1HeIAM026935 This message has been blocked for containing SPAM-like characteristics.
---- That's a weird message. But it gives me something to go on... Thanks! -l -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-11-12 12:20, L.A. Walsh wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
The MX for tlinx.org rejected those with :
550 5.7.1 uA1HeIAM026935 This message has been blocked for containing SPAM-like characteristics.
---- That's a weird message.
But it gives me something to go on... Thanks!
It can be your ISP. Mine does, before it reaches the ISP-client filters. I mean, the spam filter at my ISP account which I can configure a bit, or disable. Me, I disable entirely, yet I know that some mail is rejected as spam. Sometimes I get a post, I reply to it, and my own ISP rejects it! I then remove a line in the post containing an URL, resend, and it goes trhough. So, I know that my ISP examines full content before accepting an email. And later, there is a second filter at the ISP imap server level, the one that I can disable. Nothing I can do, except change ISP. I had problems with the old XFS mail list, it kept halting my subscription now and then for that reason. As for your post, if you get an email from a list, and your ISP bounces it, then no, you can not get a copy of that bounced post. Only the sender can give you some info, from the bounce message or logs. If it is your machine which bounces it, you get some info from the logs. Perhaps, not always. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The MX for tlinx.org rejected those with :
550 5.7.1 uA1HeIAM026935 This message has been blocked for containing SPAM-like characteristics.
That's a weird message.
It can be your ISP.
Mine does, before it reaches the ISP-client filters. I mean, the spam filter at my ISP account which I can configure a bit, or disable. Me, I disable entirely, yet I know that some mail is rejected as spam.
Yeah, sounds similar, though I called my ISP and got cust support, and they escalated it and was told they didn't filter: and yet, the above. Grr. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Perhaps we should move to opensuse-offtopic mail list. On 2016-11-12 14:22, L.A. Walsh wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
It can be your ISP.
Yeah, sounds similar, though I called my ISP and got cust support, and they escalated it and was told they didn't filter: and yet, the above.
You can try sending yourself from another ISP (gmail, for instance) posts, and then showing them the rejects. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Perhaps we should move to opensuse-offtopic mail list.
On 2016-11-12 14:22, L.A. Walsh wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
It can be your ISP.
Yeah, sounds similar, though I called my ISP and got cust support, and they escalated it and was told they didn't filter: and yet, the above.
You can try sending yourself from another ISP (gmail, for instance) posts, and then showing them the rejects.
Already tried that -- I think they take into account the sender. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-11-12 17:55, L.A. Walsh wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
You can try sending yourself from another ISP (gmail, for instance) posts, and then showing them the rejects.
Already tried that -- I think they take into account the sender.
Yes, that can be. Typically not the sender, but the domain. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
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