[opensuse-factory] Notes on successful GUI Smart from alpha 4 to factory (beta1)
Due to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=214992 I have been unable to do a fresh install. Due to some good help from Andreas Hanke on this list, I was able to get Smart working on alpha 4 and then upgrade from the gwdg.de factory mirror with Smart's GUI interface. Like YAST, Smart replaced my kernel rather than adding the newer kernel. This I do not like. Mandriva tools default to adding, which I'm used to and much prefer. Somewhere along the way it ought to at least ask which I would prefer and give me a chance to have it added. Because of the reason for bug 214992, I expected to be unable to boot on the new kernel. Luckily, I was wrong on that. The log window doesn't scroll itself. I would rather it tail instead of just sit there like nothing was happening. The icons neither have accompanying text nor tooltips. Guessing what they're supposed to mean is not very smart. Luckily I guessed right on the big green arrow. It is not smart at all about choosing what to download when. My connection was rather lethargic. It waited to near completion of downloading packages to begin the biggest download, OpenOffice.org. That made for an extra 20 minute wait for the actual upgrade installation process to begin while it waited for that one package to finish. Like on Ubuntu, the fetch process window leaves many completed downloads with "stalled" in the time to complete column. That too is rather unsmart. There's so much wrong with the menus I won't get into it. I presume that will eventually be attended to upstream as a result of complaints from others. Regardless of the above shortcomings, it seems to have successfully performed the upgrade. That is a very good feature. I'm amazed that the upgrade process is smart enough to upgrade complex running apps like KDE, and not tell me to restart or reboot when done. :-) -- "The Lord is my strength and my shield; my heart trusts in him, and I am helped." Psalm 28:7 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Em Sex, 2006-10-27 às 00:26 -0400, Felix Miata escreveu:
Like YAST, Smart replaced my kernel rather than adding the newer kernel. This I do not like. Mandriva tools default to adding, which I'm used to
This is a distro specific setting. Check 'smart flag --show' to see if 'kernel-default' is marked 'multi-version'. If not, it should be set by the distro, but you can also turn it on runing 'smart flag --set multi-version kernel-default'.
The log window doesn't scroll itself. I would rather it tail instead of just sit there like nothing was happening.
The icons neither have accompanying text nor tooltips. Guessing what they're supposed to mean is not very smart. Luckily I guessed right on the big green arrow.
It would be nice if you open some tickets on http://tracker.labix.org/
minute wait for the actual upgrade installation process to begin while it waited for that one package to finish.
That's the way Smart is supposed to run: it only commits when the complete set of packages for the requested transaction are available.
Like on Ubuntu, the fetch process window leaves many completed downloads with "stalled" in the time to complete column. That too is rather unsmart.
It's already fixed by the devel team, and the fixes should be applied on the distro package.
There's so much wrong with the menus I won't get into it. I presume that will eventually be attended to upstream as a result of complaints from others.
Maybe yes, maybe not. Check the tracker mentioned above.
Regardless of the above shortcomings, it seems to have successfully
That's cool. :) Thanks for your input! -- % Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) % mteixeira{a}webset{d}net <> Maceio/AL/BR % http://mteixeira.webset.net <> http://pmping.sf.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 06/10/30 10:46 (GMT-0200) Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) apparently typed:
Em Sex, 2006-10-27 Ã s 00:26 -0400, Felix Miata escreveu:
minute wait for the actual upgrade installation process to begin while it waited for that one package to finish.
That's the way Smart is supposed to run: it only commits when the complete set of packages for the requested transaction are available.
I had no doubt of that. My point was that if Smart was smart if would know or find out which files it wants are the largest and start download of those early, so that those bringing up the tail of the download process were average size or smaller. That would minimize the delay from connecting to a slow server that permits higher net throughput when several files are downloading at once. I had this happen before on Ubuntu, where OpenOffice.org was started late and was last to finish by a considerable margin. -- "The Lord is my strength and my shield; my heart trusts in him, and I am helped." Psalm 28:7 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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On 06/10/30 10:46 (GMT-0200) Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) apparently typed:
Em Sex, 2006-10-27 Ã s 00:26 -0400, Felix Miata escreveu:
minute wait for the actual upgrade installation process to begin while it waited for that one package to finish.
That's the way Smart is supposed to run: it only commits when the complete set of packages for the requested transaction are available.
I had no doubt of that. My point was that if Smart was smart if would know
*doh*
or find out which files it wants are the largest and start download of those early, so that those bringing up the tail of the download process were average size or smaller. That would minimize the delay from connecting to a slow server that permits higher net throughput when several files are downloading at once. I had this happen before on Ubuntu, where OpenOffice.org was started late and was last to finish by a considerable margin.
What can I say... you're welcome to contribute a patch. Shouldn't be that hard to implement btw. - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser@skynet.be> <guru@unixtech.be> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFRoiUr3NMWliFcXcRAmy7AJ49BmV2KHKYKABeok6G6uc9cmYk+ACgq3Ql 5DPgeMgLw7FCYlY9ZX3aVNA= =D1YH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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