Confusing wording for network setup method

During installation, at network setup, there's the Use traditional method (Enable) and Use Network Manager (Enable) I find it terribly confusing with the "enable" thing. I always have to stop and think what does it mean and what will it do. I suggest a more specific link instead of just "enable". Like this: Now using traditional method (Enable Network Manager) and Now using Network Manager (Enable traditional method) Will add to bugzilla

Hi, especially the logic is different for the firewall setting (just a few lines below on the same screen). So both settings should have the same mechanism. On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
-- Andreas Klein Andreas.C.Klein@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de

On Friday 03 February 2006 21:55, Andreas Klein wrote:
I don't remember precisely how it is now, but this would seem clear: Firewall is (enabled) Firewall is (disabled) It's clear because there can be only two options (enabled and disabled) that are understood by anyone. But the "traditional" vs. "NetworkManager" would require previous knowledge. So the "enable/disable" method is not the best. Bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=146893 I have suggested Now using traditional method (Switch to Network Manager) Now using Network Manager (Switch to traditional method) Of course, a radio button would be best, everyone would know what to do with it. Simple and clear: (*) Traditional method ( ) Network Manager Applet

Isn't NetworkManager a Gnome-only app? Or am I just not up to date on all of this? I'm a KDE guy and I still don't use any of KDE's network management features - I use CLI. --jmr -----Original Message----- From: Silviu Marin-Caea [mailto:silviu_marin-caea@fieldinsights.ro] Sent: Sat 2/4/2006 3:19 AM To: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org Cc: Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Confusing wording for network setup method On Friday 03 February 2006 21:55, Andreas Klein wrote:
I don't remember precisely how it is now, but this would seem clear: Firewall is (enabled) Firewall is (disabled) It's clear because there can be only two options (enabled and disabled) that are understood by anyone. But the "traditional" vs. "NetworkManager" would require previous knowledge. So the "enable/disable" method is not the best. Bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=146893 I have suggested Now using traditional method (Switch to Network Manager) Now using Network Manager (Switch to traditional method) Of course, a radio button would be best, everyone would know what to do with it. Simple and clear: (*) Traditional method ( ) Network Manager Applet --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org

Am Monday 06 February 2006 16:03 schrieb Robison, Jonathon (M.):
Networkmanager is a general service. There exists frontend's for KDE and Gnome. -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: adrian@suse.de

Hi, especially the logic is different for the firewall setting (just a few lines below on the same screen). So both settings should have the same mechanism. On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
-- Andreas Klein Andreas.C.Klein@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de

On Friday 03 February 2006 21:55, Andreas Klein wrote:
I don't remember precisely how it is now, but this would seem clear: Firewall is (enabled) Firewall is (disabled) It's clear because there can be only two options (enabled and disabled) that are understood by anyone. But the "traditional" vs. "NetworkManager" would require previous knowledge. So the "enable/disable" method is not the best. Bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=146893 I have suggested Now using traditional method (Switch to Network Manager) Now using Network Manager (Switch to traditional method) Of course, a radio button would be best, everyone would know what to do with it. Simple and clear: (*) Traditional method ( ) Network Manager Applet

Isn't NetworkManager a Gnome-only app? Or am I just not up to date on all of this? I'm a KDE guy and I still don't use any of KDE's network management features - I use CLI. --jmr -----Original Message----- From: Silviu Marin-Caea [mailto:silviu_marin-caea@fieldinsights.ro] Sent: Sat 2/4/2006 3:19 AM To: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org Cc: Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Confusing wording for network setup method On Friday 03 February 2006 21:55, Andreas Klein wrote:
I don't remember precisely how it is now, but this would seem clear: Firewall is (enabled) Firewall is (disabled) It's clear because there can be only two options (enabled and disabled) that are understood by anyone. But the "traditional" vs. "NetworkManager" would require previous knowledge. So the "enable/disable" method is not the best. Bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=146893 I have suggested Now using traditional method (Switch to Network Manager) Now using Network Manager (Switch to traditional method) Of course, a radio button would be best, everyone would know what to do with it. Simple and clear: (*) Traditional method ( ) Network Manager Applet --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org

Am Monday 06 February 2006 16:03 schrieb Robison, Jonathon (M.):
Networkmanager is a general service. There exists frontend's for KDE and Gnome. -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: adrian@suse.de
participants (4)
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Adrian Schröter
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Andreas Klein
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Robison, Jonathon (M.)
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Silviu Marin-Caea