[opensuse-factory] Tumbleweed - Review of the week 2018/12
Dear Tumbleweed users and hackers, This weekly review mostly benefits from last weeks late release of snapshot 0314 and the snapshots done over the weekend, so I can still report ‘4 snapshots published this week’. The snapshots covered are 0314, 0316, 0318 and 0319. These 4 snapshots included those updates: * GNOME 3.28.0 * New branding (bootsplash/wallpaper) * GDB 8.1 * Linux kernel 4.15.9 & 4.15.10 * Systemd 237 I would like to give special attention to the next snapshot that is going to be published. It’s called ‘20180320’, but was in the makings much longer than is usual for our snapshots. This is due to the switch of the ‘product builder’, the code responsible for creating the media layout (note: the download repos are also ‘media’). A major change is that the repos are no longer so-called ‘susetags repos’ (by zypper identified as ‘YaST2 type’), but are all standard rpm-md repositories. Zypper will transparently change the mode of the repo from yast2 to rpm-md for you, so there is no action needed and a normal ‘zypper dup’ is supposed to work (and did in all our QA test runs). Besides this major architectural change, Snapshot 0320 will bring you of course also nice updates, to make the wait worthwhile: * Mozilla Firefox 59.0 * KDE Applications 17.12.3 * KDE Frameworks 5.44.0 * postfix 3.3.0 * PostgreSQL 10.3 Beyond that, in the future you can expect these changes to come your way: * Mesa 18.0.0rc5 (final RC, it’s believed to go gold as-is) * Samba 4.8 * JDK 10 * Linux kernel 4.15.11 * GCC8 as system compiler (not too soon, Staging work has just started and there will be issues to be ironed out first) Cheers, Dominique
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:33:34 +0100 Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
I would like to give special attention to the next snapshot that is going to be published. It’s called ‘20180320’, but was in the makings much longer than is usual for our snapshots. This is due to the switch of the ‘product builder’, the code responsible for creating the media layout (note: the download repos are also ‘media’). A major change is that the repos are no longer so-called ‘susetags repos’ (by zypper identified as ‘YaST2 type’), but are all standard rpm-md repositories. Zypper will transparently change the mode of the repo from yast2 to rpm-md for you, so there is no action needed and a normal ‘zypper dup’ is supposed to work (and did in all our QA test runs).
I had the repo-oss pointing to http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/suse/ which worked up to snapshot 20180319, but when I wanted to update to snapshot 20180320 zypper dup told me there is nothing to update. After some playing around I found there exists also http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ which offers the snapshot. Probably my configuration was already very old, but maybe others experience this too. Regards, Dieter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Dieter, On Sat, 2018-03-24 at 10:59 +0100, dieter wrote:
I had the repo-oss pointing to http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/suse/ which worked up to snapshot 20180319, but when I wanted to update to snapshot 20180320 zypper dup told me there is nothing to update.
This was the legacy rpm-md repo published (more for proof of concept than anything else); I don't think this was ever preset as the configured repo on openSUSE. Can it be that you set this manually at one point?
After some playing around I found there exists also http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ which offers the snapshot.
This is actually the ONLY authorative source for Tumbleweed snapshots. If there is any documentation pointing at .../suse, we have to clearly fix those.
Probably my configuration was already very old, but maybe others experience this too.
Thanks for the info - I'm sure there is one having such a setup, there are others. And they can certainly benefit from your information. Cheers Dominique
I had the repo-oss pointing to http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/suse/ which worked up to snapshot 20180319, but when I wanted to update to snapshot 20180320 zypper dup told me there is nothing to update.
This was the legacy rpm-md repo published (more for proof of concept than anything else); I don't think this was ever preset as the configured repo on openSUSE. Can it be that you set this manually at one point? This system was originally created with an openSUSE 12.2
Hi Dominique, On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 13:31:15 +0100 Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote: pre-release and later switched to factory and then Tumbleweed, many years ago. Always by manually editing the repo URL and doing zypper dup. Therefore it is *extremely* likely that this was set by me. I can't remember anymore if this URL was in some documentation or I just found there is a repodata directory in it and it was accepted by zypper. Regards, Dieter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar <dimstar@opensuse.org> wrote:
Hi Dieter,
On Sat, 2018-03-24 at 10:59 +0100, dieter wrote:
I had the repo-oss pointing to http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/suse/ which worked up to snapshot 20180319, but when I wanted to update to snapshot 20180320 zypper dup told me there is nothing to update.
This was the legacy rpm-md repo published (more for proof of concept than anything else); I don't think this was ever preset as the configured repo on openSUSE. Can it be that you set this manually at one point?
That's a really weird thing to say, since it's absolutely wrong. While it is true it is the legacy layout, it was definitely not proof-of-concept. That's the hybrid layout for YaST+rpm-md repository metadata. Package managers that supported exclusively rpm-md had to point to that location until apparently earlier this week. That's been in use for several years by SUSE distributions, though I'm glad the migration apparently finally happened. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2018-03-24 at 19:32 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar <dimstar@opensuse.org> wrote:
Hi Dieter,
On Sat, 2018-03-24 at 10:59 +0100, dieter wrote:
I had the repo-oss pointing to http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/suse/ which worked up to snapshot 20180319, but when I wanted to update to snapshot 20180320 zypper dup told me there is nothing to update.
This was the legacy rpm-md repo published (more for proof of concept than anything else); I don't think this was ever preset as the configured repo on openSUSE. Can it be that you set this manually at one point?
That's a really weird thing to say, since it's absolutely wrong. While it is true it is the legacy layout, it was definitely not proof-of-concept. That's the hybrid layout for YaST+rpm-md repository metadata. Package managers that supported exclusively rpm-md had to point to that location until apparently earlier this week.
That's been in use for several years by SUSE distributions, though I'm glad the migration apparently finally happened.
'years' is correct in context of the 'regular releases' - THIS here though is the Factory (aka Tumbleweed) mailing list. For Tumbleweed, the rpm-md repo was enabled (ok, granted, it's also years, 1.5years) on July 29 2016 - Pretty sure that is MUCH later than what you expected. This is just half a year before the first import of the product builder code into github. Cheers Dominique
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