[opensuse-factory] obsgit
Hi Today I presented obsgit[1] in the oSLO2020, but was a very short talk[2] with no time for questions (and I could not stay a bit longer in the chat room) Maybe we can use this thread to start the discussion and share some of the questions and ideas. For example, yesterday I learned something about OBS and Kanku that can potentially change the way that we can import the project from git back to OBS (for building or testing). I was aware that the .spec files are totally isolated from internet, but this is not true for enabled _service files. The previous Leap release manager (Ludwig Nussel) explained to me that this enable the possibility that instead of importing the full project, I could create an ad-hoc _service that fetch directly from Git and LFS all the components. OBS could have now the chance of detecting that some of the assets are already in the cache, and will avoid some downloads, and from the user perspective will be very fast, as no tgz gets uploaded. Because we create the _service, we can represent a Git branch accurately in OBS, as all the package _services will be pointing to the correct Git branch. Transient OBS branches will be now cheap from the user PoV, and will enable faster testing and experimentation for big projects. This possibility open new questions, like for example what to do if the package already have a _service, but his kind of idea can shape the solution at the end. P.S I am not sure that the talk was recorded, but I think that the slides give a clear idea about what we love to achieve: develop something as massive as Factory in Git and building it in OBS with all the guarantees and features that we have now. [1] https://github.com/aplanas/obsgit [2] https://speakerdeck.com/aplanas/presenting-obsgit -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 3:24 PM aplanas <aplanas@suse.de> wrote:
Hi
Today I presented obsgit[1] in the oSLO2020, but was a very short talk[2] with no time for questions (and I could not stay a bit longer in the chat room)
Maybe we can use this thread to start the discussion and share some of the questions and ideas.
For example, yesterday I learned something about OBS and Kanku that can potentially change the way that we can import the project from git back to OBS (for building or testing).
I was aware that the .spec files are totally isolated from internet, but this is not true for enabled _service files. The previous Leap release manager (Ludwig Nussel) explained to me that this enable the possibility that instead of importing the full project, I could create an ad-hoc _service that fetch directly from Git and LFS all the components. OBS could have now the chance of detecting that some of the assets are already in the cache, and will avoid some downloads, and from the user perspective will be very fast, as no tgz gets uploaded.
Because we create the _service, we can represent a Git branch accurately in OBS, as all the package _services will be pointing to the correct Git branch. Transient OBS branches will be now cheap from the user PoV, and will enable faster testing and experimentation for big projects.
This possibility open new questions, like for example what to do if the package already have a _service, but his kind of idea can shape the solution at the end.
P.S I am not sure that the talk was recorded, but I think that the slides give a clear idea about what we love to achieve: develop something as massive as Factory in Git and building it in OBS with all the guarantees and features that we have now.
[1] https://github.com/aplanas/obsgit [2] https://speakerdeck.com/aplanas/presenting-obsgit
Hey, I don't know if you saw the openSUSE Heroes talk yesterday, but Stasiek and I described plans to bring up a Pagure[3] instance on openSUSE infrastructure. One of the purposes for this instance is to support a Distribution Git (Dist-Git) system[4] for experimenting with a Git<->OBS workflow. You might also want to take a look at fedpkg[5] and rpkg[6], which are the wrappers and tooling Fedora uses for orchestrating sources, build system, and submitting updates. These might be decent inspiration/code for how to do this in openSUSE. I also wrote a simple tool for submitting from a Dist-Git system to OBS a while back[7]. I'm personally very excited about this and I'm looking forward to helping make this a reality! [3]: https://pagure.io/pagure [4]: https://github.com/release-engineering/dist-git [5]: http://pagure.io/fedpkg [6]: http://pagure.io/rpkg [7]: https://pagure.io/obs-packaging-scripts/blob/master/f/distgit-obsimport.py -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Neal Gompa píše v Pá 16. 10. 2020 v 16:28 -0400:
I don't know if you saw the openSUSE Heroes talk yesterday, but Stasiek and I described plans to bring up a Pagure[3] instance on openSUSE infrastructure. One of the purposes for this instance is to support a Distribution Git (Dist-Git) system[4] for experimenting with a Git<->OBS workflow.
Is there some email list or something where I could get more information about the progress of the effort when it is available? Best, Matěj -- https://matej.ceplovi.cz/blog/, Jabber: mcepl@ceplovi.cz GPG Finger: 3C76 A027 CA45 AD70 98B5 BC1D 7920 5802 880B C9D8 Whoever does not have the courage to make history, becomes its poor object. Let's do it! -- Alfred Delp SJ, The Prison Writings
Matěj Cepl <mcepl@cepl.eu> writes:
Neal Gompa píše v Pá 16. 10. 2020 v 16:28 -0400:
I don't know if you saw the openSUSE Heroes talk yesterday, but Stasiek and I described plans to bring up a Pagure[3] instance on openSUSE infrastructure. One of the purposes for this instance is to support a Distribution Git (Dist-Git) system[4] for experimenting with a Git<->OBS workflow.
Is there some email list or something where I could get more information about the progress of the effort when it is available?
I'm afraid not, but if there's any new development, please count me in as interested! Cheers, Dan -- Dan Čermák <dcermak@suse.com> Software Engineer Development tools SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nuremberg Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Managing Director: Felix Imendörffer
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