Dependency conflict between tlp and power-profiles-daemon
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Hi, since about 2 weeks I experience a dependency conflict when trying to update my tumbleweed installation . This is between the packages tlp and power-profiles-daemon. Both are power related , so i assume one of those is obsolete, but I could not find information which is the preferred package or if one is a supposed replacement of the other. Does somebody has any information about this? Thank you Stefan
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Hi, Am Montag, 25. Juli 2022, 09:53:04 CEST schrieb Stefan Kunze:
Hi,
since about 2 weeks I experience a dependency conflict when trying to update my tumbleweed installation .
This is between the packages tlp and power-profiles-daemon. Both are power related , so i assume one of those is obsolete, but I could not find information which is the preferred package or if one is a supposed replacement of the other.
Does somebody has any information about this?
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1198549 has some discussion about this. FWICT, if tlp works for you, power-profiles-daemon is not needed anymore. Cheers, Fabian
Thank you
Stefan
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W dniu 25.07.2022 o 09:53, Stefan Kunze pisze:
Hi,
since about 2 weeks I experience a dependency conflict when trying to update my tumbleweed installation .
This is between the packages tlp and power-profiles-daemon. Both are power related , so i assume one of those is obsolete, but I could not find information which is the preferred package or if one is a supposed replacement of the other.
Does somebody has any information about this?
Thank you
Stefan
I deleted tlp. I'm using KDE and power-profiles-daemon is recommended by powerdevil5.
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Am 25.07.22 um 10:38 schrieb Adam Mizerski:
W dniu 25.07.2022 o 09:53, Stefan Kunze pisze:
Hi,
since about 2 weeks I experience a dependency conflict when trying to update my tumbleweed installation .
This is between the packages tlp and power-profiles-daemon. Both are power related , so i assume one of those is obsolete, but I could not find information which is the preferred package or if one is a supposed replacement of the other.
Does somebody has any information about this?
Thank you
Stefan
I deleted tlp. I'm using KDE and power-profiles-daemon is recommended by powerdevil5. So, what is your experience regarding battery power consumption after the removal of tlp?
For the sake of completeness, cf. also https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201124 Regards, Frank
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On 7/25/22 10:37 AM, Frank Krüger wrote:
Am 25.07.22 um 10:38 schrieb Adam Mizerski:
I deleted tlp. I'm using KDE and power-profiles-daemon is recommended by powerdevil5. So, what is your experience regarding battery power consumption after the removal of tlp?
For the sake of completeness, cf. also https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201124
There's an interesting discussion at https://github.com/linrunner/TLP/issues/564. TLP's developer says that "...p-p-d is currently geared towards limiting power consumption under high or medium CPU loads, while TLP also takes care of idle and low load situations." https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/qpaa4g/tlp_vs_powerprofilesdaemon/ indicates that tlp does a better job at extending battery life, at least for certain CPUs on Fedora. Unfortunately for many laptop users, though, Gnome and KDE use p-p-d. David
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On Mo, Jul 25 2022 at 12:23:44 -0700, David Walker <David@WalkerStreet.info> wrote:
There's an interesting discussion at https://github.com/linrunner/TLP/issues/564. TLP's developer says that "...p-p-d is currently geared towards limiting power consumption under high or medium CPU loads, while TLP also takes care of idle and low load situations." https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/qpaa4g/tlp_vs_powerprofilesdaemon/ indicates that tlp does a better job at extending battery life, at least for certain CPUs on Fedora. Unfortunately for many laptop users, though, Gnome and KDE use p-p-d.
In my experience, and having spent some time in various openSUSE support channels, after the removal of tlp, upower reports lower power consumption pretty universally. I am yet to find an example of a user's hardware where tlp would have increased battery life. It also very often introduces instability, which is the first issue users come with after installing one of our distros. That would indicate openSUSE's default tlp config is not even inadequate, it's actively making the thing it's trying to fix worse. On the other hand, p-p-d is a solution which doesn't require modifying configuration to work at all, but it is asking the user to indicate what their current power/performance needs are. LCP [Jake] https://lcp.world/
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On 7/25/22 15:23, David Walker wrote:
On 7/25/22 10:37 AM, Frank Krüger wrote:
Am 25.07.22 um 10:38 schrieb Adam Mizerski:
I deleted tlp. I'm using KDE and power-profiles-daemon is recommended by powerdevil5. So, what is your experience regarding battery power consumption after the removal of tlp?
For the sake of completeness, cf. also https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201124
There's an interesting discussion at https://github.com/linrunner/TLP/issues/564. TLP's developer says that "...p-p-d is currently geared towards limiting power consumption under high or medium CPU loads, while TLP also takes care of idle and low load situations." https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/qpaa4g/tlp_vs_powerprofilesdaemon/ indicates that tlp does a better job at extending battery life, at least for certain CPUs on Fedora. Unfortunately for many laptop users, though, Gnome and KDE use p-p-d.
David
In web searching for advice around this topic in the past, I found a lot of people recommending tlp over ppd for this reason. I also found a lot of people saying tlp was just too difficult to configure properly, and that one was much better off using tuned. Anyone have any thoughts on tuned? Eric
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Adam Mizerski
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David Walker
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Eric Schwarzenbach
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Fabian Vogt
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Frank Krüger
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Jacob Michalskie
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Stefan Kunze