[opensuse-factory] No way to display unneeded/orphan packages after Package Groups were removed from YaST
Orphaned/unneeded and some other package classes were integrated in Package Groups view (I understand as sort of "meta-groups"). In current TW (I have now 20191112) there is no more Package Groups - no way to display this information anywhere else. Was it really intentional? This was useful functionality. ... there seems to be Repositories - @System - "Unmaintained Packages"; this list looks like what was called orphaned packages in the past. Is it correct and it is where orphans are shown now? Still am not sure whether there is something like "unneeded". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, On 16 Nov 09:33, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
Orphaned/unneeded and some other package classes were integrated in Package Groups view (I understand as sort of "meta-groups"). In current TW (I have now 20191112) there is no more Package Groups - no way to display this information anywhere else.
zypper packages --orphaned Regards, ismail -- Aus so krummem Holze, als woraus der Mensch gemacht ist, kann nichts ganz Gerades gezimmert werden. — Immanuel Kant SUSE Linux GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Mary Higgins, Sri Rasiah HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
16.11.2019 12:41, İsmail Dönmez пишет:
Hi,
On 16 Nov 09:33, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
Orphaned/unneeded and some other package classes were integrated in Package Groups view (I understand as sort of "meta-groups"). In current TW (I have now 20191112) there is no more Package Groups - no way to display this information anywhere else.
zypper packages --orphaned
If answer to any question about possible regression in yast software manager is "use zypper", why bother having yast software manager in the first place?
On 16 Nov 14:35, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
16.11.2019 12:41, İsmail Dönmez пишет:
Hi,
On 16 Nov 09:33, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
Orphaned/unneeded and some other package classes were integrated in Package Groups view (I understand as sort of "meta-groups"). In current TW (I have now 20191112) there is no more Package Groups - no way to display this information anywhere else.
zypper packages --orphaned
If answer to any question about possible regression in yast software manager is "use zypper", why bother having yast software manager in the first place?
Because you said "no way to display this information anywhere else", anywhere else includes command line too. -- Aus so krummem Holze, als woraus der Mensch gemacht ist, kann nichts ganz Gerades gezimmert werden. — Immanuel Kant SUSE Linux GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Mary Higgins, Sri Rasiah HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 16/11/2019 07.33, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
... there seems to be Repositories - @System - "Unmaintained Packages"; this list looks like what was called orphaned packages in the past. Is it correct and it is where orphans are shown now?
"Unmaintained Packages" are installed packages that are not present in the shown repository. @System I understand includes all installed packages combined. @System Unmaintained should be installed from any repo (instead of looking at a particular) that are not in any of the defined repos, now. In YaST. orphaned I think is zypper parlance, I'm not sure what it means, but seems to be the same as "@System Unmaintained". - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXc/aHgAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1RyBAJ9ieVAxbo+UFrrJsqaopJWy4LgGnQCffEVrKr9SBBxZBPSluVK3h9D/3+Y= =62d9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 16/11/2019 12.34, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
16.11.2019 14:14, Carlos E. R. пишет:
orphaned I think is zypper parlance,
No, it is (was) not. Check what yast software manager shows in Leap 15.1 and before.
I don't remember seeing "orphaned" package in YaST? Where is it? Has it changed? Maybe in TW? I'll have a look later. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXdAEGAAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1XcIAJ9pMhMyNQiAch2te6OE5AvG3s4ccgCghLyMn9I1nk1S3B0/j9FvdtOlLTA= =uorU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 16.11.19 um 15:13 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 16/11/2019 12.34, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
16.11.2019 14:14, Carlos E. R. пишет:
orphaned I think is zypper parlance,
No, it is (was) not. Check what yast software manager shows in Leap 15.1 and before.
I don't remember seeing "orphaned" package in YaST? Where is it? Has it changed? Maybe in TW?
See, e.g., https://bugzilla.suse.com/attachment.cgi?id=823196 Regards, Frank -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 16/11/2019 15.56, Frank Krüger wrote:
Am 16.11.19 um 15:13 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 16/11/2019 12.34, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
16.11.2019 14:14, Carlos E. R. пишет:
orphaned I think is zypper parlance,
No, it is (was) not. Check what yast software manager shows in Leap 15.1 and before.
I don't remember seeing "orphaned" package in YaST? Where is it? Has it changed? Maybe in TW?
See, e.g., https://bugzilla.suse.com/attachment.cgi?id=823196
Ohhh! I'd never look in there. thanks for telling me! - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iFwEARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXdA24QAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1TiMAJYjELDObtWwZrPiixSPYgOMXjLzAKCCVmrFoW63+d2B0HQ5g2oXyqu3dg== =4st4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 16.11.19 um 07:33 schrieb Andrei Borzenkov:
Orphaned/unneeded and some other package classes were integrated in Package Groups view (I understand as sort of "meta-groups"). In current TW (I have now 20191112) there is no more Package Groups - no way to display this information anywhere else.
Was it really intentional? This was useful functionality.
... there seems to be Repositories - @System - "Unmaintained Packages"; this list looks like what was called orphaned packages in the past. Is it correct and it is where orphans are shown now?
Still am not sure whether there is something like "unneeded".
FYI: I have already filed a bug report on this issue some time ago: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1155132 Regards, Frank -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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