[opensuse-factory] Default partition setup suggests removing of existing Linux (but keeps Windows :) )

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Andrey Borzenkov

1 Feb 2013 1 Feb '13

08:40

I'm setting up multiboot system for testing; I installed Windows, Fedora and am installing current Factory. This has three HDD with each system on separate disk. Two disks are used, one is empty. I was a bit surprised to see default suggestion to remove existing Fedora install. Are we on war with Fedora or what? :) Third disk is completely empty and avaiable. So there was really no reason to offer to remove anything. Just wonder if this is intentional or should be considered a bug?\ P.S. one more annoying thing that there seems to be no way to actually return to this default suggestion. Once you click past initial Suggested Partitioning step, you never get back at it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Felix Miata

1 Feb 1 Feb

09:29

On 2013-02-01 12:40 (GMT+0400) Andrey Borzenkov composed:

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I'm setting up multiboot system for testing;

What specs?

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I installed Windows, Fedora and am installing current Factory. This has three HDD with each system on separate disk. Two disks are used, one is empty.

How old is the BIOS? With some, booting is limited to 1st & 2nd HD. Are you wanting to put OS on HD #3? If this situation applies, YaST wanting to make OS the default may be rejecting installation to a BIOS HD that is not available for boot. I don't think installing to a #3 HD gets tested much with so many people using VMs for testing. I test few systems with more than one HD, and only one fairly new one occasionally with a #3.

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I was a bit surprised to see default suggestion to remove existing Fedora install. Are we on war with Fedora or what? :)

Is Fedora using 5GB on LVM taking up a whole 500GB HD?

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Third disk is completely empty and avaiable. So there was really no reason to offer to remove anything.

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Just wonder if this is intentional or should be considered a bug? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Andrey Borzenkov

09:34

В Fri, 01 Feb 2013 04:29:42 -0500 Felix Miata пишет:

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On 2013-02-01 12:40 (GMT+0400) Andrey Borzenkov composed:

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I'm setting up multiboot system for testing;

What specs?

qemu-kvm :)

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I installed Windows, Fedora and am installing current Factory. This has three HDD with each system on separate disk. Two disks are used, one is empty.

How old is the BIOS?

Ask qemu maintainer :)

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I was a bit surprised to see default suggestion to remove existing Fedora install. Are we on war with Fedora or what? :)

Is Fedora using 5GB on LVM taking up a whole 500GB HD?

Yes, Fedora is using full 5GB disk. And how is it relevant? There is third empty disk for openSUSE to install.

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Third disk is completely empty and avaiable. So there was really no reason to offer to remove anything.

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Just wonder if this is intentional or should be considered a bug?

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doiggl＠velocitynet.com.au

09:48

On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:34:10 +0400, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:

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В Fri, 01 Feb 2013 04:29:42 -0500 Felix Miata пишет:

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On 2013-02-01 12:40 (GMT+0400) Andrey Borzenkov composed:

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I'm setting up multiboot system for testing;

What specs?

qemu-kvm :)

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I installed Windows, Fedora and am installing current Factory. This has three HDD with each system on separate disk. Two disks are used, one is empty.

How old is the BIOS?

Ask qemu maintainer :)

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I was a bit surprised to see default suggestion to remove existing Fedora

install.

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Are we on war with Fedora or what? :)

Is Fedora using 5GB on LVM taking up a whole 500GB HD?

Yes, Fedora is using full 5GB disk. And how is it relevant? There is third empty disk for openSUSE to install.

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Third disk is completely empty and avaiable. So there was really no reason to offer to remove anything.

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Just wonder if this is intentional or should be considered a bug?

Hello, For info --Glenn From[1] [1]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Partitioning There are 3 types of disk partitions: Primary Extended Logical Primary partitions can be bootable and are limited to four partitions per disk or RAID volume. If a partitioning scheme requires more than four partitions, an extended partition containing logical partitions is used. Extended partitions can be thought of as containers for logical partitions. A hard disk can contain no more than one extended partition. The extended partition is also counted as a primary partition so if the disk has an extended partition, only three additional primary partitions are possible (i.e. three primary partitions and one extended partition). The number of logical partitions residing in an extended partition is unlimited. A system that dual boots with Windows will require that Windows reside in a primary partition. The customary numbering scheme is to create primary partitions sda1 through sda3 followed by an extended partition sda4. The logical partitions on sda4 are numbered sda5, sda6, etc. This is an example of dual boot setup # fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 64.0 GB, 64023257088 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7783 cylinders, total 125045424 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xcc791374 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 63 41046074 20523006 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda2 * 41048064 61528063 10240000 83 Linux /dev/sda3 61528950 120119295 29295173 83 Linux /dev/sda4 120119296 125044735 2462720 82 Linux swap / Solaris Disk /dev/sdb: 750.2 GB, 750155462656 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders, total 1465147388 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x1a200865 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 2048 1465145343 732571648 83 Linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Felix Miata

10:14

On 2013-02-01 20:48 (GMT+1100) doiggl@velocitynet.com.au composed:

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:34:10 +0400, Andrey Borzenkov composed:

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Fri, 01 Feb 2013 04:29:42 -0500 Felix Miata composed:

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On 2013-02-01 12:40 (GMT+0400) Andrey Borzenkov composed:

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I was a bit surprised to see default suggestion to remove existing Fedora install. Are we on war with Fedora or what? :)

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Is Fedora using 5GB on LVM taking up a whole 500GB HD?

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Yes, Fedora is using full 5GB disk.

Where did you find such a small HD? How did you get Fedora to use it without complaining about lack of space?

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Third disk is completely empty and avaiable. So there was really no reason to offer to remove anything. ... There are 3 types of disk partitions:

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Primary Extended Logical

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Primary partitions can be bootable and are limited to four partitions per disk or RAID volume. If a partitioning scheme requires more than four partitions, an extended partition containing logical partitions is used.

Can be used, not necessarily is. LVM could be used instead, and Fedora likes LVM. ...

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This is an example of dual boot setup # fdisk -l

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Disk /dev/sda: 64.0 GB, 64023257088 bytes ... Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 63 41046074 20523006 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda2 * 41048064 61528063 10240000 83 Linux /dev/sda3 61528950 120119295 29295173 83 Linux /dev/sda4 120119296 125044735 2462720 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Above is an example of a HD that's used up all space for primary partitions, and thus cannot be rearranged to fit something else without destroying what's already there. If YaST cannot see HD #3, it naturally would ask to replace such a scheme instead of modifying it. Did/does YaST see the 3rd HD? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Marty Felker

2 Feb 2 Feb

22:38

Hey. Fedora also offer to remove other Linux OS's. This is something that could be changed i Anaconda (howeve that 's always been the default option in that installer as far as I remember.) or YasT. But the bottom line is don't let software jus decide on h ow it should be installed - at least without looking at it. Marr Felekr On 2/1/2013 3:40 AM, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:

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I'm setting up multiboot system for testing; I installed Windows, Fedora and am installing current Factory. This has three HDD with each system on separate disk. Two disks are used, one is empty. I was a bit surprised to see default suggestion to remove existing Fedora install.

Are we on war with Fedora or what? :)

Third disk is completely empty and avaiable. So there was really no reason to offer to remove anything.

Just wonder if this is intentional or should be considered a bug?\

P.S. one more annoying thing that there seems to be no way to actually return to this default suggestion. Once you click past initial Suggested Partitioning step, you never get back at it.

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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