[opensuse-factory] External Drive for a Backup - errors
I have been trying for 2 days now to get one of the two external drives I have to work for backups of my install. My fdisk -l /dev/sdb yields this output: http://susepaste.org/41422947 I have been using the Backups gui program that I believe is provided by MATE but I use KDE. The shortcut resides in the System option in the Menu. I had a TW install a few days back and this worked perfectly for me. I am again using TW, second install, both installs were upgrades. When I use this Backups program, it throws an external window showing this: http://susepaste.org/72088551 I have formatted both drives a few times to ext4. I used GSmartControl on one for a 2 hour test and it was fine. Both drives are fine. I believe something with duplicity or python is causing this issue but i've no clue. Can anyone help me or am I just out of luck on this? Jim
* james <james@insiberia.net> [08-08-17 07:47]:
and that backup program is what? perhaps duplicity?
what does (as root): zypper ver provide? are you really getting disk errors, re subject, or just getting errors from program output? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan:
The program is literally called Backups, I have not seen it in KDE but it shows up when I install some MATE stuff. It is a GUI program in the System folder in the Menu selection.
what does (as root): zypper ver provide?
That says "unknown command"
are you really getting disk errors, re subject, or just getting errors from program output?
This error above appears to be from the program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Frederic Crozat:
Le mardi 08 août 2017 à 15:52 +0000, james a écrit :
This is probably deja-dup.
'deja-dup' is already installed. No update candidate for 'deja-dup-34.3-3.1.x86_64'. The highest available version is already installed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* james <james@insiberia.net> [01-01-70 12:34]:
from the command-line: rpm -qf `which Backups` I cannot find an opensuse package providing "Backups". you are going to have to explain what this program is and where it comes from. I am using Tw and have for years and cannot find anything providing "Backups" for openSUSE. just might explain why you are getting errors.
sorry, should be: zypper ve
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Patrick Shanahan:
sudo rpm -qf `which Backups` which: no Backups in (/home/katnip/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin) rpm: no arguments given for query -- now you're making me paranoid after seeing it in two installs.
sudo zypper ve Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Dependencies of all installed packages are satisfied. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-08-08 18:57, james wrote:
When you are running it, open a terminal and run "ps afxu | less -S" and search the output for the program, probably near the bottom. Identify the actual command line. The menu entry for the program may be called "backup" and be different from the actual program name. cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qa | grep -i backup storeBackup-3.5-7.1.noarch rdiff-backup-1.2.8-28.3.x86_64 cer@Telcontar:~> -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R.:
On 2017-08-08 20:23, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I've pretty much given up, dd doesnt work either, neither ext drive. I'm resigned to it not working. :/ jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-08-08 20:36, james wrote:
Carlos E. R.:
I've pretty much given up, dd doesnt work either, neither ext drive. I'm resigned to it not working. :/
What error gives 'dd'? That drive is special: I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 33553920 bytes -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [08-08-17 15:29]:
and how are you invoking "dd"? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R.:
http://susepaste.org/34545492 very very long -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-08-08 22:42, james wrote:
But nothing I can easily see about this problem. There are package installation logs there. You have to start "journalctl --follow" and then start dd to see what new output goes there. Or the last lines of "dmesg". -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Den 2017-08-08 kl. 21:49, skrev james:
hw failure? Try put the drive on another USB-port (it's USB, right?). Check with lsusb -t to see your options. I had to move a USB-disk a year ago due to lack of power on that port. You can also check for hw failure on a disk with smartctl -a (as root). It'll give you a abundance of info. smartctl -a /dev/sdb To rule out software problem I'd try a live-disk of some sort and see if it works. My favorite is knoppix (I'm old, I know). If it works with that it's most likely something in opensuse. -- /bengan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Bengt Gördén:
Den 2017-08-08 kl. 21:49, skrev james:
http://susepaste.org/43553632 I also ran a 2 hour test this morning with GSmartControl with no errors on it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Den 2017-08-08 kl. 22:47, skrev james:
Something is going on here. Maybe a bad cable. It's the most common cause when you have UDMA_CRC_Error_Count.
I also ran a 2 hour test this morning with GSmartControl with no errors on it.
-- /bengan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-08-08 22:47, james wrote:
There are hardware errors logged in the last hour. What they mean I have no idea: 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 082 082 000 Old_age Always - 7970 ... Error 22 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 7970 hours (332 days + 2 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 84 51 a0 60 fd 00 03 Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x0300fd60 = 50396512 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- 61 00 18 00 05 01 40 00 00:04:35.217 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED 61 00 10 00 01 01 40 00 00:04:35.217 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED 61 00 08 00 fd 00 40 00 00:04:35.217 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED 61 00 00 00 f9 00 40 00 00:04:35.213 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED 61 00 18 00 f5 00 40 00 00:04:34.481 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R.:
If you would like I can include as an attachment the results of the GSmartControl test that contradicts what you say about the hardware. Also, the drive is 6 months old from Apple as is the cord. Got news for ya, Apple don't make junk that goes bad in 6 months. This worked fine in the last install which was just days or weeks ago. Now, it is crap. So, tell me more how this is on my end and worship this faulty software. I am about on the verge of leaving SUSE, I'm sure you'd miss me... tired of this blame game and offering little real help. IRC is about as useful as tits on a boar too. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* james <james@insiberia.net> [08-08-17 21:26]: [...]
If you would like I can include as an attachment
***no*** post it on susepaste or dropbox or google or ....
anyone can have a production problem and sub-par/defects sneak out.
This worked fine in the last install which was just days or weeks ago. Now, it is crap.
shit happens
grow up. your failure and/or inability to provide requested information and properly describe conditions to affect a solution are not on us. we routinely attach remote drives and boot from them and backup to them using openSUSE. I have a usb stick running Tw I use for trouble shooting windows computers and I can update it and add/subtract applications .... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan:
Check the fricken posts on this thread before you jump in and tell me to grow up. the facts you ask for have been done. do your research before insulting me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-08-09 03:24, james wrote:
Doesn't matter. It is your own hardware which is reporting errors. That log above comes directly from inside the disk: smartctl just reads it, doesn't generate it. That doesn't mean that the error is fatal or permanent. I have disks that once had hardware errors and they are still working fine many years later. I don't know what that hardware error on your disk means. I just say that your disk reported errors about the time you were doing the backup and that could explain dd failing. Plus, your disk is not a normal disk. This line, which I have seen twice recently: I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 33553920 bytes is very strange. The other chap can not boot from his disk, but he can read/write to it.
This is absurd. It is not a question of who blames who. If you want to use Linux, you have to be prepared to work, and not surrender that easily. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Dne úterý 8. srpna 2017 13:44:00 CEST, james napsal(a):
Duplicity requires several Python packages. If I remember correctly, I had to manually install python-paramiko, python-pycrypto, python-ecdsa, might be something else. After it duplicity worked correctly. I think, as it has many possibilities, it doesn't have these packages as required. -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/
Vojtěch Zeisek:
Dne úterý 8. srpna 2017 13:44:00 CEST, james napsal(a):
I install as many as the ones you mentioned plus a few from some web sites and I still get this: http://susepaste.org/89123762
Dne úterý 8. srpna 2017 18:19:00 CEST, james napsal(a):
This is weird. What is the complete command? Do all backed up files have names with only ASCII characters? -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/
Dne úterý 8. srpna 2017 18:31:00 CEST, james napsal(a):
Sorry, I never used Déjà Dup https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/DejaDup It is what You use, isn't it? I regularly use Duplicity (internally used by Déjà Dup), but I have no idea how Déjà Dup is working with it... :-( -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/
Hello, Am Dienstag, 8. August 2017, 18:31:00 CEST schrieb james:
Did you ask/tell the package maintainer about these dependencies? They are not even listed as Recommends, so IMHO this might count as a bug.
Reading the backtrace indicates that Vojtěch's question points in the right direction - duplicity probably fails at a filename that is not valid utf-8. Unfortunately the error handler also breaks at the invalid utf-8 which makes debugging this harder :-( You can try comment out line 79 of /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/ duplicity/util.py by prepending a # # e = unicode(e).encode('utf-8') This won't fix your problem, but with some luck you'll at least get a useful error message ;-) Please open a bugreport for duplicity - assuming that filenames are always valid utf-8 is quite optimistic. Handling them as binary is a better idea. Regards, Christian Boltz -- für die Bewertung des Risikos gilt Martins Hypothese: Das Risiko ist proportional zur Größe der Schlagzeile in der BILD-Zeitung. [Martin zu http://blog.koehntopp.de/archives/3211-Wieso-wir-uns-veroeffentlichen.html] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-08-08 19:24:38 +0200, Christian Boltz wrote:
Hmm... IMHO, the error message is quite useful:) ... File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/duplicity/util.py", line 79, in uexc e = unicode(e).encode('utf-8') UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe2 in position 746: ordinal not in range(128) tells you that 0xe2 cannot be decoded using the "ascii" encoding, which is implicitly used (in this case) when executing "unicode(e)". (However, 0xe2 is a valid unicode (see, for instance, "print unichr(0xe2)")) In this case, unicode(e, 'utf8') should do the trick.
Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 08-08-17 19:24, Christian Boltz wrote:
There has been a bugreport on Duplicity dependencies earlier: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1047137 Regards
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] External Drive for a Backup - errors Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:58:59 +0200 From: Mari Donkers <opensuse@photonsphere.org> To: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org On 08-08-17 19:24, Christian Boltz wrote:
There has been a bugreport on Duplicity dependencies earlier: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1047137 Regards
* james <james@insiberia.net> [08-08-17 07:47]:
and that backup program is what? perhaps duplicity?
what does (as root): zypper ver provide? are you really getting disk errors, re subject, or just getting errors from program output? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan:
The program is literally called Backups, I have not seen it in KDE but it shows up when I install some MATE stuff. It is a GUI program in the System folder in the Menu selection.
what does (as root): zypper ver provide?
That says "unknown command"
are you really getting disk errors, re subject, or just getting errors from program output?
This error above appears to be from the program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Frederic Crozat:
Le mardi 08 août 2017 à 15:52 +0000, james a écrit :
This is probably deja-dup.
'deja-dup' is already installed. No update candidate for 'deja-dup-34.3-3.1.x86_64'. The highest available version is already installed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* james <james@insiberia.net> [01-01-70 12:34]:
from the command-line: rpm -qf `which Backups` I cannot find an opensuse package providing "Backups". you are going to have to explain what this program is and where it comes from. I am using Tw and have for years and cannot find anything providing "Backups" for openSUSE. just might explain why you are getting errors.
sorry, should be: zypper ve
-- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan:
sudo rpm -qf `which Backups` which: no Backups in (/home/katnip/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin) rpm: no arguments given for query -- now you're making me paranoid after seeing it in two installs.
sudo zypper ve Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Dependencies of all installed packages are satisfied. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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