On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
Noah Davis composed on 2018-08-02 21:26 (UTC-0400):
Here are my problems with https://lists.opensuse.org :
Search: https://i.imgur.com/i3E1YAj.png
"Why the width of the whole page?"
Easy for you to narrow your browser window width to your personal optimum.
Difficult to impossible for anyone who wants or needs it wider to make it so.
In what situation would you want the text area to be 13.5 inches (~34cm) wide (assuming a 15 inch laptop)? If you are using a smaller screen than me, you know lots of websites can adapt to your screen size and resolution, right? The reason most people try to limit their lines of code to 80-120 characters is because it improves readability. It makes it easier to see everything and easier to keep my place when I switch to reading something else and go back. The same applies to wrapped text on a web page, which is why most websites have the sense not to make a text area 13.5 inches wide and the reason why it is preferred that you write letters in a portrait layout and not a landscape layout.
Viewing a thread: https://i.imgur.com/zpnGrP6.png
"I really need to click next for each email?"
Exactly what I need, no chance to mix up exactly whose message I'm digging for particulars on in a long thread, with each post in its own tab. Yes, it could do better at indicating thread flow.
I'm not trying to antagonize you, but I have no idea how you could mix anything up when the name is right at the top of every email, clearly separated from the body. I get that big changes can lead to confusion and instability, but unless I'm missing something, this concern seems ridiculous.
List of threads: https://i.imgur.com/DbiFtTL.png "Why are there several top level threads for the same conversation? Why no snippet of the first post in the conversation?"
Blame use of broken email clients that discard or otherwise break thread references.
But if GMail can keep all these emails sorted under one thread with the correct original poster, why cant lists.opensuse.org do it? As far as I can tell, Fedora doesn't seem to have this problem either.
It's a lot easier to follow threads when viewing them on https://lists.fedoraproject.org because of the layout:
"Easy to follow..."
Not for me. Nothing's easy with gray text, lots of link distractions, and useless white- and gray-space multiplying need to scroll.
Where are the links to refer to particular posts hiding there?
Where's each poster's time string, so as to know what time of day a poster's clock read? I respond differently as to both content and when I choose to respond according to my perception of the part of the poster's day, early, mid, late. Where are the rest of the headers, so as to possibly be able to determine from where sent?
You speak as if we are dealing with proprietary software and this is all it could ever look like. LCP already has a different bootstrap theme that is currently used on our wiki. I can't relate to your issue with the number of links at all. The way I see it, lists.opensuse.org is not better, with all the buttons crammed together in the tiny side bar. lists.opensuse.org has even more useless space. If you hover over the time, you see the sender's time. The chain-link icon under the time gives you the permalink. Perhaps those could be more prominently displayed, but nothing has to be set in stone. Even with those flaws on list.fedoraproject.org, lists.opensuse.org is far worse in its current state. Switching to HyperKitty would be a net positive change for usability in general and would make openSUSE more welcoming to new users who aren't used to the web as it was 15-20 years ago. lists.opensuse.org isn't even that good compared to other websites from that time. Perhaps I should have said it before, but when I say it's easier to follow, I mostly mean the way posts are indented to show who they are replying to or the option to sort replies by date like in GMail and the fact that all posts are laid out in front of me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org