Peter Czanik wrote:
Hello,
On 09/26/2012 07:09 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
Just in case no one else has noticed - there is absolutely no (0, zero) benefit to anyone (user/admin/developer/packager/whoever) in omitting syslog from the default pattern/install. Yet it was suggested and we have been discussing it for quite some time now. I submit it should never have been suggested and certainly not discussed without someone arguing _why_ it is of benefit to the end user and hence worthwhile doing.
I think the suggestion was completely pointless and in the end only caused unnecessary consternation among those openSUSE users that have a use for syslog. The majority of the default openSUSE users (90% according to the thread) don't care anyway, so why waste effort on upsetting the 10%?
I guess, I was the one, who opened this can of worms :)
Really? TBH, I'm not sure who it was.
So, here are some systemd journal advantages.
I think you're off on the wrong track - my posting was not about systemd nor the journal. [big snip - systemd advantages] The question remains - how is omitting syslog from the default patterns good for the 90% of end users? It seems to me that the change to the default pattern is a tiny effort, brings no advantage to 90% of the users and a slight disadvantage to the other 10%. Is it really worth us even discussing it? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (13.1°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org