On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:08, Stephan Kulow wrote:
The time between GM and release should be short, because at that time we're 100% frozen and everyone has to stand still. I don't want to have a whole project stand still just because the maintainers of the nivida binary repos aren't able to compile the drivers for RC1. I'm using nouveau just fine and my prediction is that nvidia binary only drivers are even less a factor for 11.4 release.
Are you using KDE4 and the nouveau drivers? They do not mix well on 11.3. Using nouveau results in graphics corruptions (eg icons in the taskbar get scrambled), and you can't use composite - well, that's my experience anyway (and discussed by many other users in various mailing lists and forums). I never tested Nouveau with Gnome in 11.3 before I bumped to the nVidia proprietary drivers. On other discussion points... testing, and the fact that the majority of "real" user testing starts around RC1 or RC2... I'm somewhat guilty of that myself. I cannot afford to bring down my computers for an install - especially if it's a potentially broken Milestone install. Now, even with the final releases I wait 2 or 3 weeks post release to do the actual install... gives time for those last annoying bugs to hopefully be fixed via online updates. I have a feeling a significant number of us are in the same situation... the only testing we can do is in VirtualBox.... which, while is a nice testing platform doesn't equal a real install with all the oddities that come with that... and these oddities start coming out when the real installs start shortly before release. i don't know of a solution to this... it's just an observation. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org