Am 24.10.2011 16:41, schrieb Pascal Bleser:
On 2011-10-25 01:14:31 (+0200), Will Stephenson <wstephenson@suse.de> wrote:
On Monday 24 Oct 2011 22:35:37 Ilya Chernykh wrote:
I think you could add info on KDE3 being included in 12.1. Possibly it worth mentioning that this makes asylum for at least a part of users who dislike Gnome 3. This is my strong objection to mentioning KDE 3 in our 12.1 marketing and release notes. SUSE has a long and undistinguished history of letting noisy tails wag the whole dog, but there is no need for the openSUSE project to continue this. [...]
+1 to everything you wrote (and I was a strong proponent of keeping KDE3 with KDE4 in.. I don't even remember which version that was.. :))
But the situation has changed, a lot. KDE3 really is a dead cow.
The wording of Ilya to call his project KDE3 is unfortunate. But you, and others, take to context and put the word "dead" close to Trinity, which is of course based on KDE3. Still you are not talking about KDE3. You talk about Trinity and the Trinities teams work in this thread. We all know how much of love goes in most peoples projects. It is in most cases a very personal thing. I am shocked seeing you beating a smaller project on this emotional level. Such vocal killings are IMO non sensible, especially so close inside the openSUSE community.
Otherwise the openSUSE
community as being welcoming looses value.While the point back then was that almost everyone was on KDE3 and that KDE4 wasn't ready for prime time, and that we would alienate a lot of users, this is absolutely not the case any more as of today. Everyone besides a small niche has moved to KDE4, and KDE4 is definitely ready for the job.
I am pretty sure you have useful arguments about, why you do not want to support a KDE3 fork. That's easily understandable as argument. No need to spread bad feeling around. kind regards Kai-Uwe PS: sorry, if my post distracts from the original topic. But a direct answer seems most appropriate. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org