Am Donnerstag, 1. Juli 2010, 20:21:07 schrieb Peter Czanik:
Hello,
2010-07-01 19:11 keltezéssel, Cristian Rodríguez írta:
El 01/07/10 09:00, Peter Czanik escribió:
Im yet to see real hardware with enough resources to build the whole distro natively... this liltte devices have 512 MB ram only.
It's there: the OBS :-) It uses cross compilation, but if it necessary, it can compile "natively" using Qemu. It's a lot more slower, but works. See http://lizards.opensuse.org/2009/06/16/opensusearmgsoc-cross-compilation-sp eedup/ So using ARM hardware for compilation is not necessary.
BTW: by the time openSUSE 12.0 will be out, ARM promises to have real server grade hardware to be available with multiple cores, couple gigabytes of RAM and still low power consumption.
Bye, CzP
Ugh, isn't 11.3+1 already 12.0? even if not, then there is less then 16 months for ARM based 'big irons', I heavily doubt they will pull it off. ARM platform in my eyes is very promising, but it's just not engineered for something like obs, they have multicore in the pipe since ages, just look at how long it took to spread Cortex A8 to a handful of consumer devices. It will take quite some time for ARM architecture to compete with x86 on a MIPS/Watt scale in the high performance sector. How is debian doing their armel port, I understand their buildsystem doesn't blindly rebuild once a dependency rebuilt because of a minor version bump down in the pipe? What ARM based build system do they base their port on? I just can't imagine a sheeva plug build farm just so we get opensuse factory built in less then 3 days, and that what obs seems most tackled with (whole factory rebuild because some low low low level modification). So qemu or crossbuild won't be replaced any time soon by native build systems I think. Regards, Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org