-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Volker Kuhlmann schreef:
On Thu 10 May 2007 05:23:24 NZST +1200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
We'd like to discuss the following topics tomorrow. Please send your comments and suggestions as usual so that I can represent them.
* Smaller systems - what can be done?
Goal: A system with 128 MB of space.
Challenges are especially: * Languages and localization * documentation - > some packages have documentation split up already * theming -> some packages will be split up so that only one theme is in a package.
Are you talking about 128MB of *disk* space or *RAM* space? Please make and keep this distinction clear!
What is the intended/envisaged use of such an installation / system?
Do you think a small system which has only 128MB of software storage space (hard disk, flash card, ...) has >=256MB of RAM to run SUSE version-any on?
Obviously (to me) we're not talking about a desktop system here, there are none with only 128MB of program storage. So what's the point of a distro which needs twice as much RAM as it does disk space to even install? Obviously: no install -> distro is phhhhhhhhht.
Are you thinking people might install on a big computer, then transplant 128MB of storage space into something small? Do gnome, KDE, or languages in this situation have any relevance whatsoever?
Why put effort into saving (say) 200MB of disk space when the smallest disk on the market is 40-80GB?
I have a commercial application for a small control system running Linux. Must have: kernel, networking, services (web, ftp, ssh, ...), basic package management. Of total non-interest: GUIs, desktop software (no keyboard or mouse attached), languages (users see none of this anyway). Similarly for small servers, firewalls, whatever people can hack up. I'm pretty sure there are quite a few of these applications around, and they will stay firmly Debian. How much stuff SUSE does or does not install on disk is a non-issue when the installer hangs by its neck with a black screen half way through its own startup.
Volker
It is true, that if one wants to have a small and stable system, fully functional, with a minimal windowmanager, one ends up with Debian (sarge), which still has a base from 300MB, without x-server. 48MB, for an overcomplete OS, (DSL), when one does like cmd... KDE or GNOME, are not usable for these kind of systems. En indeed 128MB Ram or Diskspace? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.4" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGQvidX5/X5X6LpDgRAnD7AKDUCdZ7XM0COCFXe2d0iUFbKwmDPACg0xqN A8AUoFnHKsFT1icdtkc2lDI= =KxF7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org