On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 22:55:28 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
Jim Henderson composed on 2015-08-28 22:39 (UTC):
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 22:23:07 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
Jim, people (and myself) have pointed that out earlier in this thread:
running 32bit apps running 32bit virtual guests.
Both use less memory in 32bit.
Ah, "scarcity". Not a really good argument IMHO.
It isn't only the blessed who need to use a computer. Scarcity comes in many forms. Among them are people lucky to get a working free or dirt cheap machine from whatever source with whatever RAM and HD it came with. Adding RAM isn't necessarily cheap, if doable at all. For older machines that can actually accept more than they already have, compatible RAM has to be both in budget, discoverable, and available to its owner.
Another scarcity comes in the form of working 32 bit motherboards with 1G (or less, such as 3 DIMM VIA boards limted to 256M per stick) maximum supported RAM, including some that run at about 70% of maximum speed when all three slots are filled to capacity. I run openSUSE on IIRC three such, mainly in order to find and file bugs that don't hit developer-class hardware, all with Athlon (32 bit) CPUs. Slighty newer ones support 2G maximum RAM. I have several such, all with 32 bit P4s, kept alive and functioning for the same reason as the Athlons, and not all populated with 2G.
The motherboard used to type this with 13.1, about 7 years old, has only 2 DDR2 slots, and supports no larger than 2G modules. It uses RAID1, is bootable from floppy, and runs 32 bit 13.1 on a 2009 Wolfdale. 32 bit 13.1 in part is because my backup strategy includes multiboot, the prior release remaining instantly ready to chroot *when* necessary, as when the prior motherboard expired without warning and what was readily available had to be pressed into duty quickly. This upgrade cycle has been in place since early openSUSE years, before 64 bit had become the arch of choice for mere mortals, and consequently is 32 bit dependent in a manner, on a 32 bit predecessor. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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Designing to an obsolete lowest common denominator is a great way to hold things back and stifle progress. Sorry, but I just don't see the need for an official Leap 42.1 build. Someone wants to do an unofficial one, that's what open source is about. You're right, it isn't only the blessed who need to use a computer - but at some point, you have to say that there is a minimum entry requirement for an *official* build, because people's time is involved. That's the scarcity measure that matters in developing a release. As I said, you want an unofficial 32-bit build of Leap 42.1, knock yourself out. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org