Sasi Olin schrieb:
With more modern protocols with native authentication it might be also easier for people to connect than navigating the baroque maze of antispam measures that have been attached on top of IRC over time.
That would be true, if it wasn't for Matrix clients not implementing SSO for the most part, which is kind of a requirement for us to use the existing login system. I know of 2 clients that implement it in the entire ecosystem.
As Mozilla has switch from IRC to Matrix due to multiple reasons (including spam defense as well as the requirement to be able to enforce community guidelines so synchronous chat can be a safe place for everyone) and is using SSO for users created on their instance (people from elsewhere can still join all the rooms via federation though), I checked Mozilla's wiki page for clients they list as supported with SSO: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Matrix#Clients There are more than 2 listed there already, and the list may not be complete as the last edit of the page was 2 months ago. And even without SSO, Matrix is definitely "easier for people to connect than navigating the baroque maze of antispam measures that have been attached on top of IRC over time" IMHO - even more so as you can e.g. have a home server that requires SSO but is federated so people can even log into another server without SSO and then join rooms on yours, like Mozilla did. (That said, Mozilla isn't actually operating that instance themselves but pay Element to do that for them.) KaiRo