* Richard Brown <rbrown@suse.de> [06-14-23 14:57]:
On 2023-06-14 20:49, Stefan Seyfried via openSUSE Factory wrote:
On 14.06.23 20:45, Richard Brown wrote:
A zypper up is _ALWAYS_ wrong on Tumbleweed
I have to disagree.
Damn, I forgot there was more than one of you ;)
An zypper up on Tumbleweed is NEVER correct.
Obviously, I have to disagree here, too.
without additional arguments, you might have a point. But I use it often like
zypper -v up --no-recommends -r 23 zypper -v up --no-recommends "texlive*" ... without issues.
Doesn't matter if you make it work 'without issues'.
It's not how Tumbleweed is designed to be used. It's not how it's ever going to be tested to be used. anyone reporting issues found while doing things that way will not find many willing fools to support them, and they should be advised the correct way of updating their Tumbleweed machine.
Maybe we should implement Bernhard's suggestion just to kill off any chance this invalid use continues, you're making it obvious the error message isn't effective, and that's a bug that needs to be fixed.
while you deal in absolutes, but only when it suits you, you are absolutely incorrect. zypper up may be used to upgrade a specific package even to another vendor when the rest of zypper dup is not wanted. from perhaps another LOUD voice. you may want to refrain to characterizing particular poster just because you have less respect for their existance. it is very annoying and disrespectful. and I have used Tumbleweed since it's inception and Evergreen befor that, and probably before you came to openSUSE/SuSe/SUSE. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc