On Thursday 20 Sep 2012 23:36:42 Catalin Iacob wrote:
To summarize: * having some bugs available just to SUSE employees is in my opinion bad
I think most contributers have felt this way about BNC bugzilla at one point or another; but the legalese of a bug notwithstanding, I recognise that many of the openSUSE lead honcho's have taken care and effort in the last couple of years to try and open up as many internal bug reports as possible to the community. In addition to this type of issue related to legality, there's another class of bug that you might occasionally find yourself unable to view... Security issues often have an embargo on disclosure to allow support teams to prepare an update. While I personally would rather have immediate knowledge of the issue, I understand that I have to swallow a small amount of time based obfuscation for the greater good. Gladly, I think the frustration you found in this bug report has now become the exception rather than the norm and I think AJ, coolo and others inside suse and novell have helped encourage this ethos of sharing internal reports with the greater community. For your own sanity it's worth keeping an eye on the annoying bugs[1]
* what should happen to plasma-addons so that it gets upgraded to 4.9.1?
If you don't get a direct answer to this you can ask on #opensuse-kde IRC or opensuse-kde@ mailing list.
* am I doing things correctly to stay on top of Factory? are others doing the same? is Factory meant to be used day to day if you have some troubleshooting and system recovery skills?
Many people live at the cutting/bleeding edge of factory. If you examine individual packages via 'osc'[2] (latest from openSUSE:Tools repo), or the web based client for the build service[3], you can notice that almost every package in factory has it's own 'devel' project where most of the heavy lifting and development is done. For the most part, maintainers submit known working states of their packages to factory and the factory project maintainers and autogroups handle the integration. When theres significant and predictable problems such as the mesa/xorg issue or a new gcc or such like, we get a heads up on the factory ML. In short, if you know your way around your system you will probably not have any significant problems using factory ;) [1] http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Most_annoying_bugs [2] http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:OSC [3] https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=openSUSE:Factory -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org