Jan Engelhardt wrote
For everybody that is unhappy - just go to OpenBSD! NO systemd, NO journalctl, GOOD OL inetd, and BEST of all - it's FREE of evil initrds!
Switching kernels is a much larger jump than even switching distro's. I have no clue whether all my HW would even work on BSD -- it might, but that's a much larger step than necessary. Below that is switching distro's which is another unknown, as you might be taking in a larger number of new problems that you didn't know about -- i.e. preferring to jump into the unknown vs. dealing with the devil you know. Third -- why does everyone assume that one should leave when one doesn't like some 5% of something. Isn't it alot more productive to work to change the 5%? I mean if everyone who didn't like 5% of the US's government policies, got up and left, the land would be vacant. Those in charge would like us to believe they are omnipotent and their decisions are final and users have no input into the situation -- but if that was true -- why would they care if we left or not? In fact, if they were secure, they'd want us to stay to build user-base numbers. The fact that several suggest the discontented 'leave' rather than work to change the status quo, only indicates that those who have made this decision don't really want to hear about different views because it raises for public airing the lame decisions made with little review, that they want to pass for 'design decisions'. What appears to be so is that more senior engineers have left the openSuSE project -- while some may be left, it appears to be dominated by those who don't have as much experience and are willing to make radical changes. I would say it is only incumbent upon those who have concerns and cares for compatibility and would like to see it ALL work -- (NOT an "either/or" proposition where they create losers, but a flexible solution that allows openSuse to remain a general purpose distribution that works for non-engineering-flavored end-users, as well as developers, and as a corporate desktop solution. There seem to be an increasingly small number of senior engineers in the openSuse community willing to speak out against rush toward latest features and damn the compatibility. More often than not, I'm willing to let things go if I can work around it -- but the problem with this change is it breaks compat with much software that is out there -- the paths alone are a nightmare. So maybe if I keep asking 'why' it's necessary to move all the files that were moved from /bin, /sbin-> /usr/{s,}bin eventually someone will either figure out a good reason, OR figure out that it doesn't have to be broken unnecessarily -- and that they just didn't know how to make it work. I don't pay attention to this list on a daily basis, but when I was told that the software was being improved and no longer required /usr (and apparently /usr/share -- lets be clear -- /usr/share is a separate partition for me as well) to be mounted at boot. Now I find out changes are going in anyway and I want to know why it has to be be on /usr. I can't see anything other than bad design in this -- and that doesn't bode well for all the engineering and investment that has already gone into it. But I'm more likely to try to change my current situation than throw it all away and starting with a complete unknown.... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org