On 1/7/22 20:30, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 07/01/2022 10.47, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Am 07.01.22 um 10:21 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
I like Leap, but this keeping of old packages is going too far. Four years, really?
Are SLE customers installing new machines really liking 15, or having trouble?
SLE customers installing new machines are using SLES12-SP5.
My cow-orkers in operating are starting now with moving productive machines to SLES15.
SLES15-SP1 of course, not SP3.
If SUSE shipped a SLES16 now, they would be ready for adoption of it maybe in 2025. Especially as this would have major, breaking changes (like: usrmerge) that would need excessive testing. (Not really, but that would be their argument to keep the old stuff).
This is most likely one of the bigger SUSE customers in europe, if not the biggest.
And yes, I tell them daily to go away and kill themselves when they come around with on their SLES12 installations, that would be simply go away if they switched to SLES15+. Or when they whine about their sles15 problems that come from them using SP1 instead of SP3+updates.
So yes, paying customers really like old stuff :-)
Ok, that's about servers. What about desktop customers?
There are people complaining that Leap doesn't run in their new laptops, doesn't this happen to paying customers?
Yep but generally the kernel team is really good at backporting new hardware enablement, they just don't have access to all the hardware in the world so if you create a bug report there is a fair chance they will be able to backport the support. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B