Am 29.02.20 um 16:22 schrieb Frans de Boer:
Very much more happy. I just don't understand why so much effort is made - or in my view energy wasted - to make a "new" distribution, based on years of old/ancient (core) packages.
The thing is that much effort is saved by basing (in this case) 15.2 just on SLES15-SP2, and letting SUSE do the maintenance on many of the base packages instead of assigning the community the task of maintaining it.
I, however, can understand that one would take a snapshot of TW and iron out some bugs and let that live for some time. That sounds more productive then reverting to 3-4 years old packages.
Nobody is reverting to anything, it is just the saved effort of updating *and keeping the updated packages secure*. We had this before Leap, until 13.2. The thing was exactly as you described it: fork off from Factory/Tumbleweed at some point in time and then maintain it for $SOME years. The problem with that is lack of manpower and expertise.
The thing is, I do like to have a stable distribution in case TW sometimes misfired. But using a distro which uses 3-4- years old packages - and after 8 months being even 4-5 years or more - can only be used as a last resort.
I have not really a problem running my stuff on Leap. And I'm pretty happy that I (as a packager / community member) had almost zero work to do for 15.2, because I did not need to touch the packages. And I almost never have to care for "old crap", I usually only update tumbleweed to the latest and greatest. I very much like it like that. Did you really measure the 4x slowdown of Leap vs TW or is this just a guess based on the software version? Often the SLES versions get fixes / improvements backported from newer releases, but keep the compatibility (and version numbers) with the old version. If you notice such big performance differences in Leap vs tumbleweed, then filing a bug might be appropriate. SUSE might be interested in porting back these performance fixes to SLES15-SP2 (from there Leap 15.2 will get these more or less automatically). Have fun, -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org