Ancor Gonzalez Sosa composed on 2016-02-25 17:26 (UTC+0100):
jdd wrote:
may be it's the moment to bring this up?
I agree that part needs some love but...
I just got a new test with Leap,
of the three options, the first (Edit Proposal Settings) is of no use there, and it's repeated on Create Partition Setup
It offers a fast and easy way to select the default filesystem, to choose if you want a separate /home partition. I believe it's quite used, in fact.
Expert Partitioner
is not really for expert, as it simply shows the present situation *and mount points filled*, so it simply is a "Edit proposal Settings"
The expert partitioner allows you to create/resize/delete partitions, to define encryption, software RAID, LVM... Almost the opposite of "not for experts" or "simply shows the present situation".
Create Partition Setup
first option: use disk:
It's true that you can also reach the proposal settings from here. But I think there are some non-obvious differences.
second option: true expert place
This takes you to the same point than "expert partitioner". Why is this the "true" real expert place compared to the previous one? Is the same dialog with the same options.
Had I found it possible to use "Expert Partitioner" to do what I wished, there would have been no incentive for me to have filed these: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547703 (filed 2009) https://features.opensuse.org/308150 (score 4) It's been a long time since I've selected "Expert Partitioner" except by accident, so I have no recollection what problem(s) or differences I found, or not. "Create Partition Setup" -> "Custom Partitioning (for experts)" has been the only way for me to get where I want to go. It's ironic that this is necessary, because I *always* wish to do no partitioning at all. All I ever actually want to do is specify mount points and mount options for the partitions that I have *always* during past couple of decades configured in advance of intializing any operating system installation. Mageia makes what I want easy, via installation cmdline startup option "readonly=1". Using it presents a "partitioning" screen that does this exactly, lists only native-type partitions with input field for mount point, with no confusing options or additional screens regarding actions leading to any partition table changes. http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Mdv/mgaReadonly1s2.png
so two possibility (among many):
* very simple: just edit the first screen mockup, remove the menu entry "Edit Proposal Settings", change the menu entry "Expert Partitioner" to the name "Edit Proposal Settings". So two options in place of three...
* much more work: do the first point, then rethink the "Create Partition Setup", select hard disk and go next (without selecting expert). This would need much more discussion, not fitted here and much more work.
this makes expert seems to be a step more deep (but it was already there). Anyway no expert mode should be too easily accessible.
(did not look at TW. Is your new work visible on some TW version?)
In short. Yes, this needs to be improved but we need a better analysis about the available options and why are they there. They are clearly counterintuitive, since I honestly think you misunderstood most of them. ;-)
To late for this sprint (already started yesterday)... but maybe for the next one.
Shouldn't be too late. URLs above are >5 years old, former created somewhere around the time of this thread starter: https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/msg00019.html My personal archive of that thread contains 78 posts. It's OP at that point had a computer using history of more than two decades. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org