Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 27/12/11 09:57, Sebastian Freundt wrote:
Sven Burmeister<sven.burmeister@gmx.net> writes:
Am Dienstag, 27. Dezember 2011, 09:56:34 schrieb Sebastian Freundt:
- In general lack of understanding what systemd really does.
Interesting that any discussion always revolves back to systemd. Might I add another category:
- Hordes of unfixed bugs, many of them so major no production environment with a risk manager will dare even try this thing in its current state.
Cristian asked for bug numbers not polemic and useless statements.
Can't speak for other people, but here's the list of *my* reported/followed, still open bugs:
On the novell bug tracker: 737547 automounter doesn't mount nfs shares 737553 rpc.idmapd not started automatically 737636 network is started then stopped right away 737690 systemd does not honour SIGPWR 738604 systemd corrupts disk and dumps core when ntp is started 737551 rpc_pipefs not mounted even though NFS_START_SERVICES="yes" and RPC_PIPEFS_DIR="/var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs" 737554 Boot output isn't directed to the console If people were half as busy fixing those bugs as they are discussing the pros and cons, systemd might be a half-decent beta product already.
what do you expect ?
I don't know what Sebastian expects -- I would have had expected an attitude that doesn't call for removal of sysvinit while there are such bugs, directly after a release that didn't even had a working postfix. I also wouldn't have had expected an attitude that uses the question "where are the bug numbers?" to squash discussion, and then complains when there are bug numbers cited. Especially when the complaints include wrong assertions. (That Sebastian opened one of those bugs last week doesn't imply that all of his bugs are from last week.) But obviously, these expectations have been wrong. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod@acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org