Sid Boyce wrote:
On 03/09/12 23:25, Carlos E. R. wrote:
That's why I hate systemD, that it's proponents simply do not care for our problems.
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith))
I have to side with Byren, YOUR PROBLEMS not mine nor millions out there happily using systemd.
You've got that exactly backwards. You start with a working system. Which is what Carlos had. Then someone else introduces a change and Carlos's system breaks. What's different? The Change. What broke the system? The Change. What is at fault? The Change. The problem likes with the change, not those things that didn't change.
I wouldn't call myself a proponent - systemd was introduced and I had to come to terms with it.
So it was forced down your throat, you are saying?
Other stuff is coming down the road to generate considerable heat, like wayland.
Which only should go to show the open source community -- that we no longer have choice in the community -- the agenda is being driven by corporate interests that have taken over the movement. Gnu is bound by Corporate POSIX, SuSE and RedHat are supporting MS's methods by agreeing to pay MS money and buy an MS-revokable license for shim-layer code.
For every action there always will be an equal and opposite reaction - may be not equal but an opposition which eventually subsides and dies.
Yeah, like the move to 'New Coke' -- that went over real well. Idiot. Opposite doesn't subside and die -- it often forces rethinking the initial force -- if there is anything of the original force left -- and as near as I can tell...new coke isn't around anymore. So 'Classic' example of ill-thought out actions being obliterated by the reaction. Any more words of wisdom?
Like Linus says, the one constant in Linux is change and that has been so for every OS of the dozen or so I have encountered in the last 42 years. In that time I have not seen any surge in complaints that we should stick with the previous way of working, we just got on and adjusted to the new.
Linus doesn't force incompatible changes each release. You can still run 2.4 and 2.6 versions of the kernel -- the support is longer than an 18 month cycle.
With proprietary systems you don't get an opportunity to voice dissent or influence what's delivered.
---- Oh?
You don't argue with development directions with z/OS, Solaris, OSX or Windows as such arguments will get you nowhere and the rub is you pay dearly for them.
z/OS? Who's that? Solaris -- they went out of business because of dissent -- .. What do you mean, you don't argue. Sun isn't around anymore because they didn't listen to the customer.
If there is an outcry like Ubuntu's introduction of Unitywhere there is a mass defection to KDE, Gnome, etc., there are alternative choices but ultimately the decisions are made in accordance with the road ahead as the teams see it.
That's where you are full of caca. Such thinking is why many companies are no longer around. MS had it's first losing money year since it started --- why? Win7 is the only option they are providing, and they WinXP was what people wanted.
Regards Sid.
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