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This is from trying to run startx after a fresh zypper ref/dup from 13.2 to TW. Startkde also doesn't work. "Please configure the correct X Server with SaX/SaX2, which will create the missing link. I'm aborting now." SaX, SaX2, sax & sax2 produce command not found. ls of /usr/bin/X points to /var/lib/X11/X with red background ls of /usr/bin/Xorg also has red background I see /usr/bin/startx has grown from 5643 bytes in 13.2 to 8584 bytes in TW. Systemctl isolate multi-user.target fails to stop xorg and kdm if booted to graphical.target, as does init 3, as does init 1. What's it now take to get TW to start a KDE3 session without running kdm/xdm? Startx still starts KDE in Rawhide and Cauldron. KDM3 still works and starts KDE3. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org