How to join the meeting? https://calendar.opensuse.org/teams/release/events/opensuse-release-engineer... All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting ## Attendees: DimStar, GuillaumeG, Adamm, Sarah, Richard, max, ddemaio, dirk, bmwiedemann NOTICE! the meeting url is https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting ## Leap Leap 16.0 agama installation in openQA with custom urls is finally working https://github.com/os-autoinst/os-autoinst-distri-opensuse/pull/20064 and https://github.com/os-autoinst/openqa-trigger-from-obs/commit/8a5d90845f6a50... Initial merge of KDE into Leap 16.0 (~800 submissions). Build still in progress on s390x. KDE addition addition into Leap 16.0 / agama https://github.com/openSUSE/agama/pull/1571 Branding related Initialwork on ultrawide wallpaper for Tumbleweed Experiments with geo-based wallpapers for 16.0 https://github.com/lkocman/geo-wallpapers I'm bit unhappy about current packaging of wallpapers https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/lkocman-packaging I shall start working on Leap Micro 6.1 Beta ## openSUSE Tumbleweed (DimStar) openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 134 failed 23 unresolvable (last week 15 failed, 9 unresolvable) https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz (big increase due to more things trying to rebuild with gcc14; https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Factory:Rebuild shows the resutls when we'd use rebuild=transitive, i.e 559 failed packages) 424 requests accepted in the last week Most relevant changes: Switch to GCC14 as default compiler in 20240827 (emacs was locked on GCC13 as it fails test suite with gcc13) Kernel 6.10.7 Other updates: NetworkManager 1.48.10 openSSH 9.8p1 python numpy2 - by far not everything is ready for that, so numpy 1.x will be re-introduced Blocked: perl-Bootloader to be renamed to update-bootloader, openQA tests needs updating https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/165686 python-Sphinx 8.0.2: causes a few breakages, Staging:L Boost 1.86: LibreOffice fails to build go 1.23 as new distro default: ignition fails to build (https://github.com/coreos/ignition/issues/1931) ### longer-lasting topics Switch default LSM from AppArmor to SELinux, see https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/Y... ## Richard (Aeon+botmaster) Recovering after weeks of serious illness. Catching up with everything that happened in the past weeks. Not aware of any burning issues with Aeon. Looking forward to picking up Aeon/tik and pushng them towards release.. Reading up on some discussions regarding tuning up the deploment of opensuse-release-tools to botmaster Q, Toying with the idea of volunteering Aeon as an exemplar/pathfinder for git workflow, does that sound feasible? lkocman: We do already have git for Leap:16.0:Images, but the main image agama-installer-Leap is currently built in openSUSE:Leap:16.0 ## Max Leap 16.0 * Merged kde packages to Leap 16.0, some kapps are pending in staging still, the requirement for patterns-kde is fulfilled at least. Max mentioned that we finally broke the 1000 packages count in 16.0 :-) * Disabled devel_web pattern for the time being until we know the desicision about virtualization package * Working on check_source make it to made submission on hold if the target package exist in SLFO * A script has uploaded SLFO packagelist to https://build.opensuse.org/projects/openSUSE:Leap:16.0:Staging/packages/dash... in case you want to adjust your tooling against SLFO packagelist and don't want to checkout gittree every time lkocman: agama - KDE was added as an option for Leap 16.0 lkocman: Dimstar mentioned that perhaps we want to make a storage HW request for 16.0, as we'll build more trees and images than in 15.3+ (where we started to use adi stagings only). Adrian: the entire model of stagings might change, there is multiple possibilities. It's also the data transfer aside from pure storage. Max: Same situation with staging will happen soon on Tumbleweed. ## Guillaume - Arm Tumbleweed: * Rolling * Submitted fixes for some build failures related to GCC14 (starting with packages from ring1) * User complained about missing web browsers for armv7 - https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/arm@lists.opensuse.org/thread/5LLTU... Leap 15.5: * RPi3 boot problem related to a kernel update https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1225352 Leap 15.6: * No blocker ## Sarah - s390x * Tumbleweed rolling * s390-tools are updated Topic openSUSE on Hercules * hercules package not compatible with openSUSE Tumbleweed (x86) any more -> new project on Github https://github.com/SDL-Hercules-390/hyperion -> submitted Hints about special instructions in Hercules: https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-390@vm.marist.edu/msg74185.html Kernel problem with Leap/Tumbleweed on new Hercules emulator (zram kernel trace): https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-390@vm.marist.edu/msg74187.html -> takeover by SUSE (Marcela) AI packages by IBM installable with anaconda Python Installer (conda install): RedBook AI for Linux on Z published: https://ibm.github.io/ai-on-z-101/blog/archive/2024/ (https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/zsystems@lists.opensuse.org/thread/...) User feedback about reasons for switching from Leap to Tumbleweed (because of Upgrade problems): https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-390@vm.marist.edu/msg74188.html Leap 16.0 will very likely have similar maintenance workflow as Leap Micro 6.1, which does not utilize :Update project. Perhaps some of these issues would simply go away by design. lkocman: the mentioned upgrade issues were a past issue which was already resolved. We've clarified it over email. ## Doug * openSUSE.Asia Summit * A couple talks cancelled by prospective speakers * TSP * 16 of 28 accepted so far * Akademy begins this weekend * FOSDEM * No call for booth yet * Dates are likely to be 01.02 & 02.02 * Provided small article about slowroll snapshots * Establishing roadmap for https://github.com/openSUSE/lessons * GSoC * 10 or 11 finals complete * 1 final extention due on Sept. 30 lkocman: LinuxDays 2024 (11-12 Oct) followed by Packaging workshop in Prague. We have I believe ~5 talks from SUSE employees. ## Dirk No update ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling, Nathan Cutler Package HUB for SLES 16 talk on next Wednesday (after this call). A high level discussion about what should we make available in Package HUB module and what not. ## Maintenance team (Marcus, Robert) * Sarah mentioned 20 downgrades of packages during distribution upgrade. Details in https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-390@vm.marist.edu/msg74188.html lkocman: will open a bug report and will get list of packages from the ML above. need more maintainers for future chromium updates after Andreas Stieger stepped down. ## Adrian - OBS Heads up: planning regarding offline installer for Agama. ## Bernhard - Slowroll had trouble from incompatible dbus-1 update => reverted preparing next version bump to 20240901 - planned in a week ## Bernhard - reproducible builds see https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/2... I plan to attend the r-b summit in Hamburg 2024-09-17 want to see merged https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-tools/pull/3129 => needs change to create adiN:rb subproject to not block progress of submissions with slow builds (e.g. chromium 18h+) or failing timebombs (e.g. python-gpstime) ## Adam - Git Workflow {wip} migrating project workflow to RabbitMQ + polling (in case events lost) TODO: migrate NodeJS devel project after above is done ## Open Floor lkocman: Sebastian Riedel raised a problem with ownership of legal-auto.py (OSRT). We got the change it, but nobody seem to be officially owning the tool. Maybe move it into SUSE org.