On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 10:57:48AM +0200, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
About "those who are doing the work decide": the problem is, that now the ones trying to keep sysvinit alive are actively combatted by the systemd proponents by removing all the init scripts so that they have to fork the whole distribution and not just maintain a single package.
Well, after spending some time on making 12.3 work again, I must say that removing the init scripts isn't the real problem. Neither is dropping whole packages, one can just recover the last (or sufficiently recent) working version. The real problem are silent changes removing or breaking functionality not necessary for systemd-only systems, often undocumented or poorly documented. Finding out which particular change broke something can be quite a challenge. But above all, the "do-ocracy" theory is just a big lie. People wanting working sysvinit didn't have to _do_ anything: it was there and it worked so there was nothing to _do_ for it, just keep it working. And even if we wanted to keeping it working, we weren't allowed because from the very beginning there was a premise that keeping two boot systems is a waste of effort and that systemd is the only one worth having. Period, end of discussion, before it even started. Well, there was a lot of discussion but arguments of people thinking otherwise were never given serious chance. The people with power to decide were already determined to get rid of sysvinit, the only question really considered was how long will it take. And this has nothing to do with "do-ocracy". Michal Kubeček -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org