On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 12:44 +0100, Martin Schlander wrote:
the menu bar is completely unusable in openSUSE: icons are too big (distro patch), and there are tons of submenus (because we use the same menu config as KDE?)
Not having the second level of categorization makes the menu much more messy and cluttered. Unless your next great idea is to install only a handful programs.
Your tone seems a little dismissive. Personally, I asked Vincent to write-down all these issues he sees: little things add up to a large amount of pain in the aggregate; also, when you become familiar with a new distro, often you work around these problems & stop noticing them so much - though they are still there.
I think the general point of view around these parts is that the success of Ubuntu has a lot more to do with astoute marketing trickery, than with technological prowess.
I don't share that view, though there is clearly some truth to it - and thankfully there is far less of a technical gap nowadays with live CDs, fast & easy package management & so on, which are great improvements to OpenSUSE. Whether it is true or not however; the fact remains that it needs to be easy & comfortable for Ubuntu users to move across to OpenSUSE. Perhaps that is just a matter of documentation, of course.
You can dumb down GNOME and yast-gtk as much as you want, but please don't destroy the rest of the distro.
Speaking of which, Vincent: did you see: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=113531 Right up your street, and prolly needs resurrecting & including, as AJ says, KDE does this & it makes their menus (for the same .desktops) suck less. Having said that some re-categorisation of the GNOME apps would prolly help too. HTH, Michael. -- michael.meeks@novell.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org