Am 08.11.22 um 19:24 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2022-11-08 17:51, Michael Ströder wrote:
On 11/8/22 14:04, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2022-11-08 12:49, Michael Ströder wrote:
On 11/8/22 11:30, Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Dienstag, 8. November 2022, 11:10:29 CET schrieb Ludwig Nussel:
Maybe we have to consider two distinct use-cases:
1. An admin maintaining stuff on a server without knowing the password of 'root' or other similar privileged user. By default grant group 'wheel' the right to do this.
2. An desktop user invoking a setup component which requires more privileges. AFAICS using su with root password for this use-case would be sufficient.
However, when you google for the way to do something, the answer always include sudo this, sudo that.
Just referring to Google foo is not a decent requirements engineering.
Whatever solution openSUSE comes up with the above use-cases have to considered more thoroughly.
I'm not referring to Google foo. You misunderstood me.
I say that when people google the solution to do _anything_ in Linux and uses google (even help people will tell people now and then to google before asking), they will be told to use sudo.
For example, google "howo to mount external disk" the first answer is:
<https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/mount-drives-linux>
which says:
sudo mkdir /media/pendrive
sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/pendrive
sudo umount /media/pendrive
sudo mkdir /media/iso
sudo mount -o loop Downloads/fossapup64-9.5.iso /media/iso
etc.
The same will happen for any question you ask.
People will use sudo instead of su with openSUSE because google tells people to use sudo, not su. That's a fact and we can not change it.
Even if sudo is not the openSUSE way of doing things.
So people need sudo to work, proven by the many people having problems this weekend.
nop, i never use sudo, even if google tells me that, reason is: for your example i have to use 5 times sudo, but if i once enter su i am fine. maybe i am to stupid, i never got why i have to using sudo. i am also to stupid to got (in past) debian to work with isdn. so i ended up with opensuse. and maybe that's the reason why i use su and do not use sudo. but i am willing to learn, so if you could explain me why i should use sudo instead of su..... ? simoN -- www.becherer.de ----------------------------------------------- - Das ist die vorlaeufig endgueltige Version! - Herbert C. Maier Dipl.-Ing. (FH) -----------------------------------------------