-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/11/2019 14.52, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 08:15:40PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
simonizor composed on 2019-11-11 17:56 (UTC-0600):
Stefan Dirsch composed on 2019-11-11 15:51 (UTC+0100):
I seriously doubt this logfile has been created by xinit or startx. IIRC gnome writes the X logfile there for the Xserver which is being used for the usersession itself (gdm greeter uses its own Xserver or Wayland).
They straight up said that they did not believe that the user's log actually came from where the user said it came from.
Stefan is actually one of the few people on the planet capable of making that statement with any authority.
Now I feel a bit embarassed. ;-) I wasn't aware being that popular and that even in a positive sense. ;-)
I was indeed wrong in the assumption, that ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.n.log would have been created by GNOME and not xinit/startx/Xorg itself. I'm still learning about "new" features of X server using $XDG_DATA_HOME/xorg/Xorg.n.log for regular users meanwhile.
It wasn't my intention to define what's appropriate to use and what not, just to make clear that we're no longer looking closely into startx/xinit problems since a long time. Using those should be limited to a special use case, where you know exactly what you're doing and not expecting much help if you are crying for help. ;-)
And there are still users around using startx/xinit because they do this since 20 years (or getting told this by people using it since 20 years), for whom it would make things even much easier to use a displaymanager nowadays.
My use case for startx is simply when the "normal way" fails because of some graphical problem, like when building and checking the nvidia driver. And that's it, never for actual usage ;-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXcrtRwAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1Q6rAJ0UV5ks6sGEGE9yAxo+RmGU/cMKPgCfUYKOmpqu09TA7jPUPyAcd6Hxqpc= =Kp82 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org