В Sat, 22 Nov 2014 00:49:12 -0500 Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> пишет:
* Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com> [11-22-14 00:22]:
[moving to factory]
В Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:13:08 -0500 Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com> пишет: [...]
But "factory" has been using "zypper dup" for years as far as I know.
Surely the new tumbleweed requires it just as factory has.
Oh, new can of worms ...
If this is true and new rolling release model mandates zypper dup as standard way to update, this is even worse problem for most users than closed source drivers. Even I managed to collect dozen of various repositories from which I need just a couple of packages each. If every time I update I must play "random repo of the day" game I will never switch to factory.
I was under impression, that rolling release implies "zypper up". Am I wrong?
Yes, wrong. Tumbleweed mandated dup and iiuc also does Factory, at least I have been using dup since changing from Tw. But it doesn't pose a problem. It does require watching repos and using locks if you add not mainstream repos (which I have several).
It's not all automagic. It does require diligence.
Packages come and go. It means that every time you do "zypper dup" you must verify that package structure did not change and repo content is still the same as you expect. Sure it can be done. But it far exceeds something most users are willing to do (or even expect to do), which defeats the idea of more wide testing. Freaks were using factory already. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org