* Cristian Rodríguez <crrodriguez@opensuse.org> [2014-04-06 17:55]:
El 06/04/14 04:05, Guido Berhoerster escribió:
No it doesn't, right now it is possible to run all the housecleaning in cron.daily at a convenient DAILY_TIME now some jobs do not obey that any more and stuff gets spread out between cron and systemd and each systemd timer has to be configured indiviually.
There is no global equivalent to DAILY_TIME in the systemd configuration.. I sincerly hope that idea is not carried forward in time, since I do not believe this is desirable design to follow.
If it wants to replace cron then it should, it is some basic functionality supported by openSUSE and anacron everywhere else. Having housecleaning jobs run at 3:00am when a box is idle is not some strange edge-case that should require admins to edit every single one of these job files just so they run at a certain time in sequence.
That's actually the worst regression of all, if something like logrotate bombs out I want to get notified immediately via email and not have to poll every box, that's insane.
Since a long time cron no longer requires an SMTP service running on the box and logs to syslog instead.. many people are already not getting email..
Sure, and many people don't look at their logs either, but that doesn't mean that it is a good idea and we should make notifications impossible altogether. cron logging to syslog has a valid use-case, e.g. if you have a central syslogserver with nagios monitoring the logs, but for smaller deployments simple mail is the only notification mechanism available.
instead will start logging to the journal, I will ask for this logrotate change to be reverted and work towards making it unnecessary instead.
Thanks, appreciate it.
Next time you see run away cron scripts (yes they escape cron control all the time, try starting a forking daemon from crontab :-D) , hijack port 25.. you will understand why I tried to bring some sanity just to once again hit the wall of tradition.
Filling up your logs isn't ideal either. And apart from getting what you deserve for abusing cronjobs, the effects can in both cases be somewhat mitigated by rate-limiting. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org