Hi, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Friday, 2009-01-16 at 13:40 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
There is a problem with this: even if you keep using the same machine and installation for a year, you will be removed from the database, unless you manually update it periodically. [...] I opened a bugzilla so that Novell changes the cron job to /etc/cron.daily/, but it has been dismissed. No, I will not report upstream, this is a packaging problem here, IMO: the /etc/cron.daily/ is a SuSE feature, AFAIK.
It is not. This is a bug in the handling of smolt. Why wont you report it upstream?
- Because the people insterested in getting good and reliable stats are the distributors, not the users. - Because I din't find how, I'm not aquainted with fedora, I don't have an account with their bugzilla, and I didn't find it. (1) - It has taken me "years" to become aquainted with Novell's bugzilla, how to express my points, how to argue them. I can't do the same with fedorans, and I will be ignored. - Because I'm not an expert in Smolt, and I find the documentation very lacking (and no, I can not write docs if I'm not an expert). And not being an expert, I can not argue my point with them. - Why do I have to report a problem upstream, when we report all problems found to Novell's Bugzilla? Surely you don't want us to subscribe to the billion bug reporting systems upstream of all packages?
If you dont want to help then let it be. Then i have to do it...
And I still think that /etc/cron.daily/ is a SuSE feature, as the /usr/lib/cron/run-crons is "Copyright (c) 1998-2001 SuSE GmbH Nuernberg".
Dude. I already told you that this cronjob comes from the smolt project. This has nothing to do with the cron package or its contents. And its not even the cronjobs fault as you noted in you initial report. Its the whole setup that is flawed.
There is also a /etc/init.d/smolt service, purpose unknown, and dissabled by default.
This triggers if data gets sent by smoltSendProfile or not.
Undocumented.
smoltSendProfile -h | grep -A 1 -- -c -c, --checkin this is an automated checkin, will only run if the "smolt" service has been started
Do you mean that if I manually send data somehow it runs insserv on smolt?
No. There is a cronjob that runs "smoltSendProfile -c". It only sends data if there is a specific file (/var/lock/subsys/smolt). The smolt "service" does nothing else than to touch or remove that file.
(1) The link for reporting upstream is <https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/report>.
It says: «Note: See TracReports for help on using and creating reports.»
That help text in unintelible for me [...] Im sorry, but that sent me running for my life, and I'm not going back there. :-/
You need a login there. Like you need a login in our bugzilla. Nothig that special... https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/new Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org