Am 11.08.2014 um 10:58 schrieb Richard Brown:
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 08:35 +0200, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
But the premise "you can just maintain your own non-systemd distribution on OBS" is IMO a plain lie, unless you really want to imply everyone should build *everything* of the distribution in his $HOME project.
Please Stefan, tone down the rhetoric
You can maintain your own "non-systemd distribution" in OBS just fine. But, for example with the vdr Project in OBS - that project is assigned as a Devel project. The purpose of a Devel project is to feed packages into Factory
Factory/openSUSE is a systemd distribution
Yes, and "init scripts will always work just fine with systemd". The fact is, that the old-style init script is the way for people to get their old configuration working during update. For new installation, the runvdr-extreme-systemd package is preferred. Now the old script was removed and a symlink rcvdr was added, which breaks the update path. Now I could have done this from the start, because keeping the update path is painful and a lot of work, just removing working things is easy. But I actually tried to care for my users. Something that is apparently totally out of scope nowadays.
So changes that add/provide native systemd support are *good* and *welcome* for Devel projects.. square peg, square hole
Yes. Exactly. That's why I kept the init script *as an option, it was even in its own subpackage*, so that users expecting square pegs (old style /etc/sysconfig configuration) would get a working setup. Now I would not have objected, would the SR have also included a converter from /etc/sysconfig/vdr to /etc/runvdr.conf, but that is not the case AFAICS.
If you want a project in OBS that does not feed into Factory, and isn't co-maintained by the factory-maintainers group, then don't have it as a Devel repo.
So this means I have to file a drop request for VDR from Factory before I go on two weeks vacation next week? -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org