Hi, As texlive was updated vom 2007 to 2008 in factory, it also grew from 159MB to 266MB and that made the milestone2 DVDs exceed the limits you can burn on DVD. I made a quick hack and removed qt4 documentation, which is also impressive 90MB. Werner says that texlive upstream doesn't see the problem and doesn't provide a good way to split (it's own distribution is a DVD or 2 CDs). And there is our problem: With every release it eats more and more of the openSUSE DVDs and I'm afraid it exceeded a sane limit - as it's far from mainstream I would remove it. I know how many use texlive and I don't talk about dropping it out of the distribution, but I can't hold it on DVD unless I drop several other packages. To give you an impression let me give you a list of packages on build112 DVD sorted by size: 266M noarch/texlive-2008-5.1.noarch.rpm 83M noarch/libqt4-devel-doc-data-4.5.1-1.1.noarch.rpm 72M noarch/kernel-source-2.6.30-4.1.noarch.rpm 32M x86_64/koffice-illustration-1.6.3-214.26.x86_64.rpm 27M x86_64/java-1_6_0-openjdk-1.6.0.0_b16-1.2.x86_64.rpm 26M noarch/opensuse-manual_de-11.1-2.21.noarch.rpm 25M x86_64/kdebase3-3.5.10-22.12.x86_64.rpm 25M noarch/efont-unicode-0.4.2-215.37.noarch.rpm 25M noarch/OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-3.0-1.78.noarch.rpm 24M noarch/xorg-x11-fonts-7.4-1.79.noarch.rpm 23M x86_64/kdebase4-workspace-4.2.85-1.3.x86_64.rpm 22M noarch/CID-keyed-fonts-MOE-20021114-339.17.noarch.rpm 21M noarch/opensuse-manual_en-11.1-29.17.noarch.rpm 20M x86_64/frozen-bubble-2.2.0rc1-1.46.x86_64.rpm 20M noarch/xemacs-packages-20070427-155.76.noarch.rpm 19M noarch/OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-3.1.0.2-1.1.noarch.rpm 19M x86_64/samba-client-3.3.4-1.1.x86_64.rpm 18M noarch/OpenOffice_org-help-ja-3.1.0.2-1.1.noarch.rpm 18M noarch/kde4-l10n-sv-doc-4.2.85-1.1.noarch.rpm I now removed the second largest package so it fits for the moment, but I don't feel that's justified. But perhaps I'm wrong. So let's discuss what the DVDs should be optimized for. Greetings, Stephan P.S. If you want to discuss packages that are currently not on DVD and should be there, feel free to do so if you start your post with "XX should go" as long as XX is part of the above list. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org