On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 6:25 PM Christian Boltz <opensuse@cboltz.de> wrote:
Hello,
Am Montag, 31. August 2020, 13:14:04 CEST schrieb Simon Lees:
On 8/18/20 6:19 AM, Christian Boltz wrote:
Allowing everybody to access JIRA could have benefits for both SUSE and the community. For example, with more people having access, maybe someone would accidently stumble over a feature request, and help to implement it? Or someone comes up with an idea for _the_ feature that would generate lots of money for SUSE, but doesn't want to do the paperwork to get access to JIRA?
It would have benefits, but I'm not sure they outweigh the excessive costs that would be required to purchase a license that would allow every member of the community simultaneous access.
I guess when the product management team were considering the tool they wanted to use they didn't consider needing that number of licenses and considered a bunch of features jira provides over the competition as really important.
I can't imagine (well, at least I hope) that the product management team didn't have openSUSE in mind when choosing Jira over $alternatives.
But if the costs are the only problem you see - AFAIK Atlassian also provides a community license [1]. I don't know the exact conditions and requirements, but in general, we could ask for a community license for openSUSE, which should help to solve the costs argument.
And even if openSUSE doesn't qualify for a community license for whatever strange reason, I still think that giving access to all communiy members would be worth the price.
[ Personally I wonder why we (both SUSE and openSUSE) need a separate tool for tracking feature requests at all. I'd simply do everything in bugzilla, maybe with a separate "feature requests" product. And yes, I'm aware that bugzilla doesn't let managers do their paperwork (or "workflow") games they like so much in FATE and now Jira and ECO ;-) ]
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Christian Boltz
[1] Ask your favorite search engine for "powered by a free Atlassian Jira open source license", and you'll get a long list, for example Apache, Linux Foundation, MariaDB, Moodle, and it seems even Fedora (on https://jira.lyrasis.org)
I knew one day the wacky situation with the Fedora name was going to bite us. :) There are actually *two* projects called "Fedora". This is the _other_ Fedora project that is a digital content repository system[1]. There is a standing agreement that permits Red Hat and Cornell-UVA (and now DuraSpace) to use the Fedora name for their respective projects, given that they do not intersect in the same market verticals. DuraSpace Fedora is a CMS, and Red Hat Fedora is the Linux platform[2]. [1]: https://duraspace.org/fedora/about/ [2]: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/ -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org