Am 2. November 2023 19:25:06 MEZ schrieb "Ondřej Súkup" <mimi.vx@gmail.com>:
2. 11. 2023 v 19:23, Eric Schirra <ecsos@opensuse.org>:
Am 2. November 2023 12:48:22 MEZ schrieb "Carlos E. R." <carlos.e.r@opensuse.org>:
On 2023-11-02 09:57, Richard Brown wrote:
On 2023-11-02 09:32, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
*Users* do not even know that OBS exists, what it is for or how to interpret information there. Users get redirected from software.opensuse.org (most common case) to 1-click install or sometimes just get a direct link to download.opensuse.org. Not much can be done about the latter, but the former boils down to the usual complaints about s.o.o being unsuitable as the end user-facing tool.
Although even in the latter case zypper could support a mechanism to display a warning when adding a repository (as part of repository metadata) and such warnings could be generated automatically by OBS.
I talked about how software.opensuse.org and 1-click installs should either be dramatically reformed or removed over SEVEN years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz3whk4E_IA
My view has only grown stronger over time. Users should not be using random OBS projects, just as Windows users shouldn't use random .exes from the internet.
Software we want our users to use should be in our distributions. Period.
If openSUSE does what you suggests, it is death of it.
Not everything is in the distribution, we need more. Period.
+1 Simple solution fix package and send it into distro :D
Unfortunately, it very often doesn't work. Requires unnecessary time and nerves. You encounter ignorance, arrogance, non-response and unwillingness. Far too many packages are clearly too old. It takes months to get through all this, if you manage it at all. Why do you think there are more and more interesting and newer packages in the Home repos? Just reflect on the reactions and behavior of the "management team" in this thread. Think about it.