On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 5:09 AM Łukasz Pruski <l.pruski@outlook.com> wrote:
Dear Reader,
I have been using both SUSE and OpenSUSE for many, many years. Within my personal computing environment as well as within my professional computing environment (Enterprise Architect is my Job).
I've always thought that having a stable branche is the way to go, and stil do. But, there's an increasing concern about usability. Especially with the recent 15.3 release of OpenSUSE (and SUSE Enterprise Linux equivalent).
There were always packages that didn't work 100% and needed some kind of fix.
However, currently we're seeing a lot of broken things. Either being it something as insignificant as Gradio (no connection to directory services), old version of Evolution with which one can't connect to either iCloud or Gmail services, either being it the introduction of the nouveau driver (and all it's problems with (for example) Quadra Cards).
SUSE and OpenSUSE were (to me) about productivity. Which means, not cutting edge, but certainly not broken. And with a lot of versions things are too much outdated and/or broken.
So my kind request would be to take this into account when making a next fix for 15.3 and absolutely when working on 15.4 (or whatever the next one will be :-) ).
openSUSE Leap 15.3 was the first where we tried this new model for openSUSE Leap development. It didn't go as well as we liked, but we're learning from it and hopefully going to do better for Leap 15.4. One aspect we're trying to improve is coordinating with SLE so that things get done relatively early, and we're doing that with the feature request tracker: https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features I hope this will help us stay on the same page and make development smoother this time. :)
Evolution within a corporate context means: it has to work ... And nowadays we even have companies that run on ... Google infrastructre ...
An installation option at which you can easily choose either you wish to use:
1. A Clean GNOME (or KDE or whatever) Environment without any extra drivers
I'm not sure what you mean here?
2. A Nouveau version (Open Source) of whatever environment or
This one depresses me. The folks at Red Hat who work on Nouveau are basically blocked on Nvidia releasing the signed firmware blobs that were promised years ago. Alas, Nvidia isn't great on keeping such promises.
3. A version that is ready to be linked with commercial drivers, would be fantastic.
This is out of our control to some extent, but we do inherit compatibility for SLE driver packages. If Nvidia provides them for SLE 15 SP3 (and the upcoming 15 SP4), then they'll work with 15.3 (and the upcoming 15.4) respectively. We can't ship it on the DVD, though.
We have made the switch to SystemD in the Linux world, together with a lot of "new concepts and ideas". Easy of use was always something one could complement (Open)SUSE for. However, times are changing and the adience is becomming more demanding ...
So perhaps a notch newer or with some patches to fix the biggest issues? Just some concerns. Only because I care about SUSE and would like to only improve more and more ...
systemd is planned to be rebased to at least v249 for 15.4: https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/27 -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!