-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/11/2014 02:35 AM, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Am 11.08.2014 um 07:49 schrieb Michal Kubecek:
The problem is it's not one package. In the name of systemd, the whole system is being redesigned and reworked in order to make the other options stop working. I've found numerous cases where changes have been done to other packages that don't help systemd and systemd systems at all but only break non-systemd systems. And then I keep reading these "if you want to provide an alternative, you are welcome to do so" appeals. It's frustrating and I really feel like I'm being mocked on purpose.
Even though I'm generally in favour of systemd, I have to agree with Michal on this: this makes it e.g. almost impossible for me to use openSUSE on embedded / ARM, because I want to use the same system on all my embedded boards and I have boards that cannot run systemd.
Apart from that systemd has the problem that it just boots much too slow on embedded systems that are not from 2014 due to its huge memory and CPU footprint. So no openSUSE for me on ARM, fortunately the yocto project fits just fine for my needs, and it can easily be built even for x86_64 :-)
But the premise "you can just maintain your own non-systemd distribution on OBS" is IMO a plain lie,
Well, other than the necessary build power I am not aware of any limitation in this area. Please fell free to educate me. Based on the experience I have with OBS there is nothing in the way for me to set up a subproject in my HOME and build all of openSUSE, create iso images from it etc. I can maintain patches that add sysV init support in the project and do whatever. There may of course be issues that I am not aware of as I have never attempted anything at that scale. Again, please share your knowledge. Proclaiming that statements are "lies" is not very constructive. Later, Robert - -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead Public Cloud Architect rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT6L3LAAoJEE4FgL32d2UkkCUH/3XC7qQZdJ/ggIwo7BmzBceV Iw61uyOPsgsfe91lpXW9T06YFSlkyNLOHNlin0nFXEe3Z9Lal/Y38VUHKI8kIwA7 ZjvdaKNuJY0ZMkAtgID8z630gajlGMlDVgJ4dn8BrmJchiHidHgwsOqdVhZVJexT Y0ORPXZAr+gDhmUFdhaJ2Fp0uJ4OdEYJ21aKdSdzuEjam0Vr8GfDFcCULFWg1lWH U5IToPHbb5gD4uGyUNYHdp6uPDwjJNnekSVnIo77t8gLYq2wqIcD+HkX5/keH1f+ KKal+zH+NLuczY490DBtnTOF7Hyimv/ZX757E9OXPph+XfxvmMvDhiC6tesB+eY= =FUmR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org