On Tuesday, May 05, 2015 12:28:07 PM Felix Miata wrote:
Raymond Wooninck composed on 2015-05-05 17:17 (UTC+0200):
just keep in mind that we are all just VOLUNTEERS with a FULL-TIME job as well. If "all" is indeed true, it's still easier said than done. IIUC, openSUSE
If you would check the email addresss of those who are part of the openSUSE KDE community team, then you would see nothing related to suse and/or novell. At this moment we have a team of 4 people, of which 2 are doing the actual packaging..
One of the unfuns seems to be accepting criticism as feedback on what needs doing, didn't (yet) get done, or might never get done, particularly WRT the whole of KDE, upstreams (including QT) and down. KDE people on the whole seem particularly sensitive, trying to take every complaint first as disappreciation for the effort contributed before seeing it as descriptions of shortcomings in results of efforts. Those results, or lack thereof, are what smack users in the face and provoke the feedback (expected here on opensuse-factory as a devel forum more than a help forum), not the contributions underlying the results.
Then I would suggest the following. The current openSUSE KDE team steps down at this moment. We cancel the upgrade to Plasma5 and give YOU all the rights to start maintaining the KDE packages in the openSUSE distro. You are constantly talking about that we are particular sensitive, etc. Did you ever really read through all the comments we got. And not only now, but also in the past 2 years. There has been a constant stream of complaints about every little thing we did or tried to do. What we asked for is constructive feedback to help us moving things forward and to properly address things. Did we got that, no. I know that most likely only a minority of the openSUSE community is the one most active on the mailinglists, but this minority is ruining the motivation of people that are actually doing things. Can you tell me why I should continue for something that I am not being paid for, doing it in my spare time besides a full-time job, instead of spending this time with my family, friends and doing things that are more rewarding ??? But congratulations. You managed really to take the fun I had with openSUSE complety away and I would be happy to hand everything over to you and that you start maintaining packages. Maybe I will keep on using openSUSE and then I can start complaining to you that I am missing functionality, etc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org