Hi, In this special case, why not Xfce? It's already in our rescue system. And a rather stupid question: Why not just add another DVD? Allow me to list the DEs we have in OBS: * GNOME family: GNOME, MATE, Cinnamon, LXDE. * KDE family: KDE, KlyDE, Razor-qt. * Standalone family: Xfce, E17, awesome, i3wm, Unity. The ones we have in DVD: GNOME, KDE, Xfce, LXDE. I know some of them can only be used by developers for now, but anyway they'll grow and want to be in. If the condition one can be in is that another one has to be kicked out, the competition will be really hot. And anyway we'll run into a situation that one DVD is not enough because some of them can't be compared at all. If there're GNOME haters, certainly there'll be KDE haters. Debian made DVD 1-3, Ubuntu has derivatives, Fedora has spins. That's common situation in the industry. We can't say "oh we do have E17, but you have to install GNOME first and then uninstall it", if our "lightweight" means a heavy "download", I think users will choose by foot. And once a DE is in, certainly it'll gain enough users to prevent it from being kicked out. It's not a package, we are actually making the decision to kill someone out. So if we still want to keep the promise that no one will be left behind and there's no second-class citizen in openSUSE, we have to increase our capability in the long run. It may be more DVDs, special derivatives like openSUSE science, or Add-on CDs like those for languages. Greetings Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org