On Sun, Oct 09, 2022 at 10:27:53AM +0200, dieter wrote:
On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 08:32:04 +0200 Neal Gompa wrote:
If we're going to bring up the environment, the computers made more than ten years ago are vastly more energy inefficient and pull more energy than most computers you can buy in the last five years. Recycling those computers and harvesting their base materials to produce better computers would be good for the environment because it reduces the carbon footprint of that person using a computer. Maybe the systems which are obsoleted do not run 24/7 but only a few hours a week. Then the energy saved by a new system will never compensate the energy consumed for manufacturing the new system.
Raising the baseline to x86_64-v2 also has the effect of raising the generational baseline to something that is generally useful for contemporary Linux system software.
Actually it means obsoleting systems for the sake of ... obsoleting systems (because some day in the future they could be insufficient to run a then current Linux).
In german c't magazine 2011 issue 12 there was a suggestion for a high performance PC with a Phenom II X6. Probably this system still outperforms everything built ever since with something called Celeron inside. And it will be obsoleted by requiring x86_64-v2.
For some tasks, sure. It will be limited to amounts of memory and bus speeds that are not exactly great today. Even if you can mount a SSD in it which probably was not a reasonable option then it will not support NVMe. It likely supports USB3 with some questionable extra controller if at all, it does not look like chipset support existed. Support for routing PCIe externally with something like USB C or Thunderbolt probably existed but not all boards support it even today. And it does not support CXL which very few if any new systems support today. Some of these problems will make the system eventually impractical to use, probably in the near future. But it does support ECC which is not common in new consumer hardware so it is not exactly easy to replace, either. Some server Celerons do, though. Thanks Michal