Hi, Am Dienstag, 9. März 2021, 16:47:24 CET schrieb Adrien Glauser:
Fabian, your package
Why are you trying to make this a personal issue now?
diverge from the "pure, unpatched, not reconfigured" plasma-workspace produced upstream. *That* upstream package is our test target, to justify the extent to which we need to diverge:
Honestly, the tone of that statement doesn't sit well with me.
- if the upstream package is satisfying to the user, it should be the one shipped to oS distros; and - if it's not, you'll be able to extrapolate from the feedback we'll get you whether GDK_BACKEND & QT_QPA_PLATFORM should be set to some value (as opposed to left alone), and also which specific value to set them to (if at all).
Top priority (at least for me) is user experience. It's what finally counts.
Also Fabian, would be willing to create this package on Factory, while we announce a time window for the community to try it, with guidelines as to how participate to the test?
I already proposed a way how to do the relevant tests easily, without any package changes on the system. So far you dismissed that and also the reasons the split sessions exist in the first place. That way there's no common ground, which is key to a proper discussion. Here's an untested (!) project with just a single "Plasma (Wayland)" session: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:Vogtinator:lessxwl After adding, install with "zypper dup --from lessxwl --allow-vendor-change". Might need Plasma 5.21.2, which TW so far couldn't pick up. I have to repeat that this is not the method for testing I recommend.
If so, I'd be happy to take care of the announcement post on news-o-o, if you can make the test build. Then I'd send you my text so that you can check it out for bias risks, and after your validation I'd post it to news-o-o.
Does that look like a fair deal for you?
AFAICT, we're on the same side, we just differ in the view on how to approach this. That really has to be cleared up first. Please also look at the side of the discussion which isn't yours. Cheers, Fabian