Hi, On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 04:12:19PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-05-30 08:47, jcsl wrote:
El Sábado, 30 de mayo de 2015 01:26:25 Carlos E. R. escribió:
Then it seems that I've definitely been wasting my time. There are simply many small typos and missing translations here and there to be reported as you already know. I *was* translating things for Factory because I thought that they were intended for the next stable release and they eventually ended in Tumbleweed as a first step. The other reason is having the work mostly done when the next release is about to be published so that we can take that time to fix things instead of translate everything in a hurry.
I'll stop translating things until someone say it's the time to do so. In the mean time I'll download and translate ".po" files and apply the translations locally. Thanks for the clarification.
What you have translated or proof read on the factory tree would have eventually appeared on 13.3, so that work would not be lost. Most translators don't bother, because factory is constantly changing at it is thus a lot of work to keep pace. That's why I didn't discourage you, because it was advance work for 13.3. I have done some little corrections, too.
But till now there is nothing in place to make your work in factory to appear, in factory. Not till 13.3 would be branched from factory.
But those corrections would not appear on 13.2, unless you personally backport them. And then it needs a bugzilla request for a patch to be created.
However, all that is moot, as it is not known how 13.3 is going to be generated. If it comes from SLES, as they are trying to do, then, changes on factory... I don't know. SLES has its own translation team, paid, at least for some languages like Spanish.
Why all this negative vibes? And ever again this _they_ are trying to do? If more people would be contribute and do less of this negative bla, bla all the time, we would have been able to continue as we did in the past. But as this didn't worked well - yes, it doesn't scale as people have this "we need and want, but we're not able to do contribute due to bla, bla" attitude - and doesn't scale those people who care and lift the heavy work made a suggestion. And the whole SUSE Linux Enterprise (SLE) stuff once was branched from the openSUSE base and SUSE as a company always tried hard to stay in sync with the community and openSUSE Factory. Therefore this stabalized openSUSE release work by reusing released SLE sources might be of benefit for both sides again. Are these negative vibes mainly caused as something in the openSUSE development and release model is changing? Yes, it's different and new but that's how thing are moving/ changing over time. So please be a bit more positive and don't scare people willing to help with such comments. How could I == you do so? a) ask on the list like: what's the best way to help here? b) enhance the wiki and don't bla, bla how unmaintained, outdated it is. As such blaming doesn't help the project and doesn't drive it forward. c) think 30 or even more miutes before you sent the next more or less useless reply. Not the quantity of your postings matter. It's all about quility! All this might sound a bit harsh but we see this again and agin and even explaining it in private mail nor here on the list helped in the past. @Karl: what's the best way for jcsl to contribute to the documentation? http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2015-05/msg01716.html was his initial question. Cheers, Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team + SUSE Labs SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany