On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Stephan Kulow <coolo@novell.com> wrote:
Once we have significant enough changes in factory, we do an alpha release. At this point, we'll update /developer.
Let's just leave it broken until then. Cool =/ Put yourself in the shoes of someone (likely already an openSUSE user) who wants to test factory for the first time. Procedure: 1. Goes to opensuse.org 2. Goes to "Get Software" (Really simple, nicely positioned, clear) 3. Gets taken to a "Download openSUSE 11.1" page. The user is now likely to be unable to find a way to change versions from 11.1 to factory (the menu option is pretty hidden and unintuitive ) 4. Finds and clicks "Latest Development Version" 5. Gets taken to a "Download openSUSE 11.1-RC1" A savvy user will identify RC1 as being a release candidate which is in fact older than the current release. If they are undetered they will go likely keep going: 6. Clicks to install "Installation DVD". ERROR: link not found. nice. 7. Tries for "live cd" Bzzzt. Error. Not found If extremely determined the user will likely start searching the wiki / google and end up on the page: http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version Which is: Cluttered Full of broken links Not clear on what approach to take Offers little on how to update into factory (just the name of a few urls) and no commands needed I always thought this mess was caused by lack of manpower/resources. But we now are able to automatically build images -- there's just really no excuses to why we don't leverage this. And if it's pushing too much data -- do it on less frequent basis. Even done every week, that's very acceptable. If there are some technical issues in the way (are there?) let's work on them, and stop acting like we need to wait month between hand made images.
You can install factory from NET.iso any day though.
I know this, you know this -- but most people don't. And anyway, the live cd (and installation DVDs if we can get them) is really a much nicer solution, we now just need to start using them. Kind Regards, Eric -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org